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August 9, 2017 at 10:30 pm in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #341059
Michael
BlockedThen that just goes to show how much the writers have epically failed. Showing that S7 is going to be a massive flop.
These idiot writers honestly think that we care more about the plot then we do the characters, that’s hilarious to me. It’s gonna take a lot more for me to like the new characters then for you to tell me they have an epic romance like snowing did.
….I don’t care. If I want to watch an epic snowing romance I’ll watch S1. I don’t have to watch this Wal-Mart version.
[adrotate group="5"]August 9, 2017 at 10:14 pm in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #341056Michael
BlockedLOL I can’t wait to see the viewer decline if this happens. I predict it will be very bad and cause a lot of controversy. Nobody in the GA will like this I’m sure and Emma is easily one of the most popular characters in the show. This is not a Neal or Robin situation.
This will probably destroy their s7 before it even takes off. Audiences won’t even give the reboot a chance if they kill off Emma, cause what was the point of the first 6 seasons? There was none clearly if this was all for nothing.
They need to retain as much as their audience as possible, they cannot afford massive viewerdrops but doing something like this will do exactly that.
August 9, 2017 at 9:44 pm in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #341048Michael
BlockedThey better be ready for a early death for their S7 should they kill off Emma. I do not see that going well with anyone in the audience at all. Goes completely against everything the show stands for, a massive slap in the face of the last 6 seasons and a display that it was a waste of our time.
A lot of their statements contradict this however as is everything Colin said at TCA and CC and he knows what happens in 7×02.
While Adam and Eddy troll their butts off, Colin would never do that. Colin has always been honest.
Michael
BlockedHmm seems like Tiana could be an informant for the cops.
August 8, 2017 at 8:44 am in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #341022Michael
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I highly doubt it’s been 20 years. I’m very sure time runs very different in EF 2 and Henry aging is gonna be explained by the fact that he jumped through realms a lot.
Gideon, though.
Gideon’s first appearance on the show was in a dream of Belle’s in Pandora’s Box. The same kind of scenario can happen here. Gideon’s appearance can be a dream appearance for curse Rumple. Gideon could try to find rumple via his dreams by using his adult form and for the audience we would recognize that form of Gideon.
Does not mean that what we will see is aged up Gideon in the real world.
I don’t see them aging up our cast. Mainly because there’s no way I see them having all the characters not returning be senior citizens while the crew in the curse is young. That would just be sad and nobody would like that. Plus Emma did not age nor did Hook in the flashback with them with adult Henry.
I actually think before they even get started on the season they have to have some kind of outline and I don’t see why they would have said no if the possibility was that Emma could return outside her one episode.
I disagree. We’ve seen multiple times how these writers switch plans consistently in one season. I think maybe they’ve planned to the mid-season finale but not the finale. Because they don’t know if they’re planning for a season or series finale yet. Probably gonna be a series cause like all reboots this will flop.
JMO and all the rest that left I’m sure would return for a series finale which is also why I said that there’s no way they’d age our old cast to senior citizens. Because hook rumple and Regina would probably go back to SB. They’re going back to all their loved ones being 20 yrs older then him. Nobody wants that.
There’s also the possibility they said nope because they’re anal about their stupid spoilers so they wouldn’t want to reveal what happens in 7×02. Maybe after 7×02 depending on what happens they’ll be more open about her coming back then, because the door would have been left open.
No I do not at all think she’s gonna die as I already explained why I think that is the case.
August 8, 2017 at 1:20 am in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #341019Michael
BlockedNo, they straight up said “nope” when asked if there were plans for JMo to return for more than one episode. Doesn’t mean that plans can’t be made at some point in the future, but let’s not add words into A and E’s mouth.
They have not planned the finale. Which is probably when JMO and the others would return. So I imagine that is what happened. They have not planned the finale nor could they ask JMO just yet when it’s 7 months from now. That’s not how this would work.
Personally, I’m not sure Emma is dead but they need to come up with a fairly reasonable excuse for why she’s not with the rest of the gang helping Henry, especially since we know Adult!Henry sends for his family to help him in UniverseB EF. Why didn’t Emma go? And why isn’t she looking for Hook, Rumple, Regina and Henry *now* after this new curse was cast? She was a bail bonds person and then a sheriff on top of being a magical Savior. To not have her help Henry first and then to not have her actively looking for her family would be…bizarre.
Well I’ve got a good excuse. That scene with her, Henry, and Hook in the woods that is supposed to have a good surprise. Probably her announcing to the boys that she’s pregnant. That could be a very good reason why she’s not with the others, cause she’s pregnant. We also don’t know how long they’ve been cursed but I imagine time moves very different in EF 2. For all we know by the finale when Hook returns Emma will be ready to give birth or something.
Another thing could be Hook and her decided that they can’t both go because they have a child together and they don’t want that child to be left an orphan. So Hook, Emma’s husband decides to go in Emma’s place to go help his step son while Emma is at home with the CS baby/toddler, etc. Emma trusts Hook, so she would trust him with his task.
She’d probably figure he’d be gone for a while and we don’t know how much time has past. I doubt much time has passed in SB tbh.
I didn’t think they were going to kill off Emma either, but now that they are thinking about possibly keeping the show going for years, they might.
Just cause they’re thinking about keeping the show for years doesn’t mean our returning regulars will be sticking around. I firmly believe this is a transitional season and should this show get an 8th season this will be the last for Colin, Bobby, and Lana. The only one that could stay is Lana cause Regina’s happy ending would probably be wherever Henry is. But for Hook and Rumple HH is not part of their happy ending. Their happy endings are their true loves and families. They would not stay in HH’s. Especially in Hook’s when he knows what his sense of loss is aka separation from Emma.
And from that perspective–the needing to solve the elephant in the room perspective–it’s easier to have had her die at some point during the 20 yr gap.
I highly doubt it’s been 20 years. I’m very sure time runs very different in EF 2 and Henry aging is gonna be explained by the fact that he jumped through realms a lot.
He wouldn’t be able to feel loss or like something is “off” if she was dead? Only if they are separated? That’s not how emotions work.
No that’s not what I said. What I said was he can feel something is off, a sense of loss. That loss is Emma and him being separated from her. If she was dead he would not feel loss. He would feel empty.
On the show Hook and Emma can feel each other. This happened during the Underworld arc and Emma could no longer feel Hook when she was alive and he was dead in 5×21. She even said it, that she could not feel him anymore during her speech. This also happened in the S6 finale. So the fact that he can feel a sense of loss means Emma is still alive, they’re just separated. Emma is probably in SB with their child.
I also highly doubt it’s been a long time. I imagine veyr little time has passed cause as we saw Lucy did not age in the finale. So only a few months may have passed and we all know these writers suck with their timelines and seasons could take place all within the span of a month or two. So the reason Emma could not be helping Henry is because she can’t cause she’s pregnant and with Regina and Rumple out of SB, Emma is the only thing that can protect SB from anything that happens. As I imagine Zelena probably went back to Oz. Zelena and Emma would be the only beings with magic left in SB to protect it. So maybe that’s why Emma stayed. Cause Regina is going and she trusts her husband to go in her place.
August 7, 2017 at 12:35 am in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #340988Michael
BlockedSeriously, how in the world has Regina not seen Henry as an adult? That is awful. Does that mean that Emma, Snow, and Charming haven’t seen Henry in twenty years either? That is messed up.
Yeah I don’t get this. So no one went looking for Henry during those 20 years? No one tried to get to the EF/other realms to search for him? They just… “oh well. He’s off finding his story. Sure he’s cool!” If they only go to him when Henry asks for help (post meeting Cindy) that’s just sorta…really messed up. You can’t convince me that Regina would be okay without seeing her child for 20+ years. Also, worth pointing out but people don’t change *that* radically from 18 to 35ish. I mean, I still look pretty darn close to how I did in high school and any differences aren’t massive enough to not recognize me.
being separated from Emma and probably their child. The only way this can work is if they can get back JMO in the finale so we can see Hook reunite with what everything he lost.
They did say, though, that there are no plans to bring JMo back outside that one episode (702) and JMo has repeatedly said that she’d only come back for one–which she has now done–so while it could be written as separation, it could also be something more dire. It largely depends on circumstance of how actors/writer/money things shake out.
They said they have no current plans at the moment. But they’re only on episode 5. If anything they would need to get JMO back for the finale. I don’t think Emma is killed. For one Hook wouldn’t be able to feel that if she was. What he’s feeling is Emma and probably their child that he’s separated from.
Plus it would be horrible for Hook to wake up from the curse and realize Emma is dead, that would be too much.
August 6, 2017 at 7:44 pm in reply to: TCA Summer Press Tour 2017 Thread – August 6th 1:45pm #340978Michael
BlockedWait so, Henry also doesn`t remember Regina? but didnt they said before that Henry still had his past memories of SB? or i got it wrong? Also about Rumple, i almost bet that they going with he did something bad and Belle dumped him and left SB with the kid and are they hinting Hook feels loss maybe bc he doesnt have Emma? So they are making his sense of loss around a character they dont have plans to return( their words not mine).
That’s exactly what he feels loss over, being separated from Emma and probably their child. The only way this can work is if they can get back JMO in the finale so we can see Hook reunite with what everything he lost. So they better have plans at the end of the season to bring her back for a cameo in the finale along with the others that left.
Michael
BlockedSo…what part of this new season is actually gonna be new? Cause to me it just seems like a bunch of rehash with new characters nobody cares about.
Michael
BlockedDid you guys see these tweets. Apparently on the call sheet Hook is referred to as “wish Hook” yet Regina and Henry are the same.
If you go further down you’ll see more.
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