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Michael
BlockedThere’s this new wonderful fanfic that gave me ideas of how they could play off CS but not with JMO. Aside from the flashes Hook would have of Emma using recycled CS footage.
What if the curse turned Emma into a swan? Ala Swan Princess and it’s not discovered till much later that Emma is a swan.
Another theory is Emma is in a coma ala Charming. But they keep her in a coma for a while and I remember reading that with Charming they were gonna keep him in a coma for at least till the first half wrapped so I think they could do that with Emma. Have them go in her hospital room in the mid season finale and find it empty ala Emma is awake and now the hunt for the awakened Emma begins.
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BlockedWell they only got one more year left so they better think of what Disney characters to include.
Michael
BlockedI think the magical forces with Hook and Emma are confirmed true love because it was indicated and stated IN DIALOGUE that it’s effects work with TRUE LOVE specifically.
Belle was irrelevant and she barely interacted if at all with Emma at that point. Emma meanwhile stated that she did not know of true love like her parents until Killian. She did not believe in that true love until him.
Again with Neal and Emma it is never stated in dialogue aside from Belle whom is irrelevant. Whereas with Hook and Emma it is indisputable aside from the people that are in massive denial and delusional.
Michael
BlockedJMO’s fave episode is the CS movie. What a shipper. What a captain.
Michael
BlockedAnother confirmation of CS true love was Emma being able to have flashes of Killian and the wedding even during the curse. Plus recognizing him from the book.
There love was so strong it broke through a memory curse.
Michael
BlockedShe states in her vows that what she experienced with Hook is TRUE LOVE! Don’t try to make it anything other than what it is.
She stated that she loved Neal. Don’t try to make it make it anything other than what it is. The show stated their love was also TRUE LOVE! Don’t try to make it anything other than what it is.
Those were “magical forces” even if YOU don’t take it to be that.
Yes, they were magical forces but they both were not indicative of True Love between Hook and Emma. The underworld test would have worked regardless of Hook because Emma has a heart full of love. Because she is light magic and true love incarnate, and the savior. Her heart was already shown to be a powerful force of love in SEASON 2. The only confirmation of love I see is the door. But still, Hook and Emma never received TLK. Which is still extremely odd.
it is completely clear within the narrative that Emma and Killian ARE true love. And no amount of arguing or headcanons you say will be able to say otherwise.
Sure. Just like Emma and Neal.
She did love Neal yes. But it wasn’t true love. He was her first love and perhaps it was true love on his side but it was not on hers. She did not experience true love until Killian, GET. OVER. IT.
Again what Belle of all people says is irrelevant especially back then because she had no idea how Emma feels.
Umm no they were indicative of true love. As they specifically stated IN DIALOGUE about the meaning of both magical items connecting to true love between two people. Get away from those headcanons dear, focus on the canon. Emma and Killian are true love. You sound just like SQ shippers now and that’s not a good thing, LOL.
I don’t care if they didn’t get a TLK because they didn’t need one because the show has explicitly stated it’s true love. Just cause delusional people still refuse to see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there. It’s stated in canon, it is canon. They’re a unique pairing, a freaking couple like Zades got true loves kiss. Sometimes it’s not a good thing to get the true love kiss. They get things that other couples do not get, that are unique.
Wile Emma and Neal never got any explicit confirmation of true love. No magical item, nothing except the dialogue from Belle about the stupid ring which BTW may indicate true love from Neal, but clearly not from Emma.
Michael
BlockedSo all you SF fans, how do you explain that? I know Emma says that she had never experienced true love before at her wedding…and that is rather damning.
I see no problem with taking Emma at her word. I simply think that we should then take her at her word consistently. During the wedding, she states that she is experiencing something with Hook that is qualitatively different from her previous experiences, and labels that true love. Sure, why not? In fact, I should hope that her feelings for Neal, for her parents, for Henry and for every other important person in her life are each particular and unique forms of love — of course they are, why wouldn’t they be? And all are equally true, lowercase t. But as far as TL as a magical force is concerned (rather than an emotion/feeling/state or what have you) I am simply saying that Emma shares it with Henry, and that’s confirmed beyond doubt. In other words, both things can be true: Emma’s statement of her experience can be an accurate reflection of her experience, AND she does in fact share TL with other people. I don’t necessarily see a contradiction here.
Good lord you interpret anything to try to twist it into what you want. You may as well stick to your head-canons instead of watching the show at this point LOL!
She states in her vows that what she experienced with Hook is TRUE LOVE! Don’t try to make it anything other than what it is.
And furthermore it IS confirmed with Hook. The true love test in the underworld plus the magical flowers as is stated has the power to reunite one with their true love. Emma used it to reunite with Hook so that is two confirmations of true love. Those were “magical forces” even if YOU don’t take it to be that.
It was NEVER confirmed with Neal. Just based off headcanons and Belle’s word of all people. Belle doesn’t know Emma. She can speak for Neal and yeah that means he felt true love for Emma but doesn’t mean it was reciprocated. She loved him but it clearly was not true love as she states she did not feel true love the way her parents did until Killian. That is canon.
You can try to twist them whichever way you want it or say it’s weak but it is completely clear within the narrative that Emma and Killian ARE true love. And no amount of arguing or headcanons you say will be able to say otherwise.
I have no problems admitting Emma loved Neal, key word LOVED! Even in Neverland, she loved Neal. It was never setting up Emma/Neal reuniting. You all should have seen the signs in 3×11 of what they were setting up was CS, not SF. But instead you were too self-absorbed into your stupid headcanons even though it was CRYSTAL clear CS was gonna happen and that Neal was the one dying and you guys were in denial until the freaking episode aired.
Like….maybe yall should focus on the actual show and not those head canons.
Michael
BlockedHow dare you suggest otherwise?
LULZ!!! That’s a good one. (Welp… in case you were actually using ‘how dare you’ non-ironically, if you re-read my post you may notice that it suggests absolutely nothing about the veracity of Emma’s statement or vows one way or another.)
The show stated she only said I love you to Neal at that moment because of the stakes much like in S2 finale she called Snow and Charming Mom and Dad because she thought they were all gonna die.
Are you saying that when not under duress, Emma doesn’t think of the Charmings as her Mom and Dad? I don’t know what to tell you… ?
You literally just pick and choose statements don’t you? Like why don’t you read everything I’m saying? Back then in S2 finale and going into S3 absolutely, Emma didn’t think of Snowing as her mother and father. She did not until the S3 finale, that’s when she fully embraced they were her parents.
Michael
BlockedNo because I’m only talking about romantic true love not familial true love.
Emma Swan has never indicated nor said that Neal was true love. EVER! The only person that she’s said this about was Killian Jones. You can’t accept that, it’s not my issue. No amount of head-canons in your brain will win out over canon in the show.
As for Emma when she said I love you to Neal she WAS highly emotional and the show even said it as such. The show stated she only said I love you to Neal at that moment because of the stakes much like in S2 finale she called Snow and Charming Mom and Dad because she thought they were all gonna die.
Emma when she said that Killian is her true love, was not in any amount of stress. She was happy, she was honest, her walls were completely down, and she was speaking from the heart.
That’s the difference between both scenarios. Emma should absolutely be taken serious when she was speaking her vows. How dare you suggest otherwise? Go back to reading your headcanons or crack theories.
Michael
BlockedThink of this way why don’t you. If you were separated from your wife, your family, would your whole purpose be to find any means of getting back to them? Maybe the reason why his motivation to get back to Emma is because that is all his family. She is his family. Regina and Rumple? Are people he can’t stand and only puts up with because of Emma(in Regina’s case).
Yes, I don’t blame Hook for wanting to get back to Emma and to do whatever it takes. Not at all. What I blame is the writers for continually writing that same schtick. Either Hook is gone or Emma is gone and the other half has to get back to them. It’s old. But yes, if they do that plot, I don’t blame the characters one bit for acting the way they do. I’m simply saying I’ve seen enough of it and would like a different plot line.
I imagine they’ll have Hook even cursed have flashes of Emma similar to Emma in the season 6 finale. Like he could be haunted by this woman and she seems so familiar but he doesn’t know how.
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