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There’s no confirmation that this will be @ Comic Con and with a move to Friday with a severely reduced cast I’m not sure it warrants Comic Con. When ABC can promote shows that actually can get more of an audience.
[adrotate group="5"]That’s great Rainbow I highly doubt it’s at the level where you can impact the ratings. Cause everyone I know and I know 100’s of people that watch this show in the GA have all quit and said S6 was their series finale. Because they think a show without Emma Swan is a complete joke and a waste of time.
Unless all these people you and Rainbow know have Neilsen boxes none of them will impact ratings. Everyone needs to keep remembering that.
And most of the 100’s of people I know do have Neilson boxes including myself. A benefit of being in a very big theatre community. 🙂
I love the aspect of it being a family show and at the same time HATE if that is premise of this new season. If they are going to reboot, they need to reboot. Unlike you I want the three characters to just support Henry and the new characters and then leave and let the show fly on its own. The reboot needs to be about the NEW characters and should have the old characters helping them transition, it should NOT be about the three characters getting home to their families because that puts all the focus back on them and not the new characters.
So you’re saying is…you don’t want the three characters reunited with their families nor do you want to see them be reunited. Dude that’s just cold. Sure they help out Henry with the curse and then what? I would love to see them be reunited with everyone in SB.
How could you hate having Hook, Regina, and Rumple work so hard to get their happy endings, get forcefully removed from them, and then not want to see them get back to them?
If it gets another season then yeah Hook, Regina, and Rumple will be out but I highly doubt that will happen. This show is gonna bomb dude and it’s time you embraced that either it ends this season or OUAT’s new legacy will be “stop after S6”. Which is just tragic really.
Aside from Belle saying it they never got a clear confirmation of true love
It was a clear confirmation of True Love, not only in the words of Belle but the fact that the pendant was not effected by the curse. If True Love is not the case, then please explain an alternative as well as for why the writers would have Belle say something if it wasn’t true. I’m interested how you rationalize that. You seem very sensitive to the idea that Emma loved someone other than Hook…. That’s very odd.
Unlike Killian and Emma, whom have had multiple confirmations of true love.
But they didn’t. Outside of people saying “Its true love” and “I love you’s” there was no supernatural confirmation of true love. Emma’ heart scale thing was not an indication of true love for hook because she’s the savior. Emma was shown to have true love with henry, she even had tlk with Graham, and the love she shared with Neal was also shown to be true love. I’m not denying that Emma loves Hook, I’m pointing out the show has done very little to actually show it on the same scale of the supernatural true love. The only thing that even remotely fits is the pixie flower door thing.
No the vows were Emma didn’t know TRUE love until she met Killian. She never believed her a child of true love would ever find it, until she met Killian. Those were the vows that she said and familial is different then romantic. The vows were about romantic true love as she brought up her parents, so it’s not related and no that was not a true loves kiss with Graham. It’s a kiss that triggered his memory cause she was the savior of them all. It was established in episodes after. They were not true love. They could have been loves but Regina cut that short.
But this once again doesn’t make sense: Because she and Neal had to have true love in order for the swan keychain pendant to survive. If that is not true, romantic love then explain how that works? And i disagree, Emma clearly had feelings for Graham and vice versa? Was it all the way, full on love? No, it could have grown to be, but it was definitely romantic love in its early stages. I don’t think Emma could have just gone around planting smoochies on the dwarves and every one else in town and bringing back memories.
For someone whom likes to boast about true love you sure are ignoring what one half of your ship is saying about true love. She did not know about true love until Killian, that is FACT. That was part of her vows. Don’t undermine or ignore what Emma says. She knows more than you do how she feels.
I agree. So lets look at what Emma says:
Now wait? Does this not exist? Are you ignoring what half your ship says? I think she knows more about her feelings than you do.Why does it matter if KillEmma were planned or not? They are together now, they are together at the end. In my opinion, they weren’t, not because of SF, but because A&E are incapable of long term planning. Everything post 3A was obviously not planned from the beginning of the show.
I agree, that was the point i was making that Michael seems to agree with but also wants to argue. A&E don’t seem to have “pre-destined” them to be together but they are now and everyone who doesn’t like it just needs to deal with that. I think Snow’s line and Hook’s line were their way of saying that. Michael does too, but argued against it and for it at the same time, so idk.
OMG it was Belle’s word. Belle doesn’t know Emma, she was irrelevant back then. They never interacted. Maybe it was true love on Neal’s part but it wasn’t on Emma’s. That is possible as well. I just gave you a reason.
And she said I love you when she was highly emotional, and that was supported in the NVL arc. Here’s something else just cause you love someone or are in love with them does not equal to true love. And Neal and Emma were not true love. They were first loves but they were not true love.
Emma’s true love by her own words is Killian Jones. Get. Over. It. Emma had multiple confirmations of true love with Killian, whether a thick brained person like you chooses to accept I don’t care. Emma Swan stated she did not know what true love was until Killian Jones, that means she did not feel true love with Neal. EMMA knows about her own feelings more than YOU do. You don’t agree with it that’s your issue to deal with but so sorry, she didn’t view SF as true love.
It’s surprising that the writers didn’t take the opportunity to have a TLK between CS, that would’ve been the quickest route to say “see, they are true love”. Instead they seemed to actively avoid it which raises questions to why that was? Why did they have Emma look so ill in later seasons?
…Umm they didn’t avoid it. They made it completely clear multiple times between the seasons.
You can come up with any half-baked theories in your heads to try to undermine these confirmations of true love. Doesn’t discount the canon.
I have no problem continuing CS in season 7. But he can have true love with Emma, and not have his entire motivation always be to get back to her. It’s stale and overused and unoriginal at this point. Good writers would find a way to keep CS alive and well and not have literally all of Hook’s motivations and storyline to revolve around her. Heck, even Snow and Charming had storylines and quests that had nothing to do with the other.
Think of this way why don’t you. If you were separated from your wife, your family, would your whole purpose be to find any means of getting back to them?
Maybe the reason why his motivation to get back to Emma is because that is all his family. She is his family. Regina and Rumple? Are people he can’t stand and only puts up with because of Emma(in Regina’s case).
Did you ever think about that before criticizing Killian about how his only motivation is ever Emma. That’s cause Emma is everything to him, that’s his family, that’s his true love, that’s his wife. What part of that don’t you get?
He along the others have been FORCEFULLY separated from everyone they love. Their motivation will absolutely 100% be to break this curse and get back to their loved ones and for Killian Jones that is Emma Swan.
Who knows what else is waiting for him in SB, maybe kids as well with Emma. So he’s got a family to get home too as well. He absolutely will have that be his motivation and his driving force as I’m sure anybody in his position or any of the other 3 would be.
Oh Rainbow, you have no idea what GA wants so speak for yourself.
I was talking about the GA people that i know, so yeah i can speak for those, bc i know them and we talk so i know what their ideas are.
That’s great Rainbow I highly doubt it’s at the level where you can impact the ratings. Cause everyone I know and I know 100’s of people that watch this show in the GA have all quit and said S6 was their series finale. Because they think a show without Emma Swan is a complete joke and a waste of time.
See what a shock that not everyone thinks alike.
And since this is a FAMILY show well then you shouldn’t “whine” and “complain” when Hook Rumple, and Regina are trying to get home to their FAMILIES! Cause I imagine anybody separated from their loved ones is going to want to get back to them ASAP.
This is what i meant. On S1 the only real ships were Snowing and they were the main ones and RB, however even in their epis in the past, during the flashbacks, their stories there was not about them, was about what was happening around them, not like what started later on, where everything about the characters interaction with other characters was about the love interest, the couples weren`t in the back with the them reacting to what was happening around them as main focus, instead was the opposite, what was happening around them was sort in the back and the main concern were what was happening with the couples, so having characters always talking and whining if the love interest was there or not, glue to each other, wher one goes the other goes as well, thinking about what the other part of a ship was doing,etc, GA, mostly families that still see the show, dont want to watch teen drama, specially bc most families already have teen drama at home with the kids, bc watching a show were they have adult characters, acting like teens, that they forget everything around them, except the love interests, is not what GA wants to see. Even us, for example we have friends that always talk about their boyfriend/girlfriend gets tiring and they are our friends, so watching a show where the characters only talk about love interests and doesnt matter if they are True Love or soul mate or kindred spirits, is boring, the only difference is that with the show we can change channel or stop watching, with friends, we will not stop being their friends bc of that. That is why having new curse identities and probably not having their memories and interact with other people, may actually good.
Oh Rainbow, you have no idea what GA wants so speak for yourself. And I highly doubt what the GA wants is the same old crap they’ve had for 5 years with curses, new identities, and other trivial garbage.
And on top of that having 3 of our characters separated from all the people they love including their true loves and families. That’s not gonna please anybody I imagine, it’s just going to upset them a lot. I hate to burst it to you but that “whining” and “moaning” ,I’m sure anybody would do if they were separated from their wife or family and would just want to get back to them. Hook and Rumple we’ve seen for the past 6 seasons value family above all else. Do you honestly beleive that there is even the slightest chance that these two once they’re not cursed will not eat, breathe, and sleep getting back to their wives and families? Ditto for Regina? Think about that real hard, and if you can’t figure the answer is a resounding yes, rewatch the series or better yet just the finale will do. You see Rumple and Hook’s determination completely in there.
And I’ll do you one even further, in S1 this worked because they were still establishing the story. By now they’ve already established many of the stories especially for the 3 that are returning with new curses and new identities. So this can be very very damaging to Adam and Eddy, so they need to be very careful next season with what they do.
One thing tho, with no SB, more controlled sets and filming more in studio, they will won if they are able to keep spoilers secret, if they do that, then i see another thing helping them , bc the fandom will tune to see bc they dont know anymore were they are going with the story and no longer have everything spoiled, they also need to have crew not spoiling the scenes to fans and paps.
If they tick off people the fandom is not gonna tune in anymore so they need to tread very carefully.
I think it’s cause with Neal it’s never been stated as true love. Maybe from his side but clearly not hers. As Emma herself said, she did not know true love until Killian Jones.
So based on that what she had with Neal was not true love but first love, and you’ll always have a special place in your heart for your first love. However it’s not true love.
And the only way you’ll get a Killian Jones BEFORE Emma Swan was flashbacks. Hate to burst your bubble but as you saw in the finale when Killian Jones is away from Emma Swan or she is missing he’s ALWAYS gonna be in find Emma mode because that’s his true love. That’s his wife, that’s his family.
The same way Rumple would be right now if Belle or Gideon is missing. They’re both family man, 100%
I 100% expect the way they will keep CS consistently in the story is Killian having similar flashes that Emma had in the finale of his life in SB and of Emma and they use recycled CS footage for it as well. Memory curses can no longer stop CS.
