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I don’t think that Regina and Jefferson are related in any way because when she left Jefferson she told him he was right; never abandon family. She is also a master of redirection, basically using his initial feelings against him in a twisted manner. If you really loved your daughter you wouldn’t have left her in the first place.
Grace lost her Mother because of the Hatter’s work, he didn’t say she was dead. I wonder if that will play a part later?[adrotate group="5"]crabtremParticipantI may be wrong, but I didn’t get the impression that the clock striking was for 8 o’clock. I was assuming that school started around 8, and Emma was talking to Henry before the school bell. Not being from Maine I’m not sure what time is sunrise, but the look of the town looked like it was just around sunrise to me.
I think Jefferson sounds like a whole new series, an almost “Time Tunnel” or “Quantum Leap”. He drops into Emma’s hat, but none of the doors have any clues to their worlds. So Jefferson in order to get his daughter and return to FTL must go through chance doors; overcome adventures and mysteries and try to gain clues on how he will be able to get his daughter and return home.
If I were Emma, I would move into Jefferson’s mansion. I would wager that Regina probably can’t use the mirrors in there.crabtremParticipantI don’t know how significant any of this is, but I noticed that when Evil Queen Regina goes to the Hatter’s home her necklace is the round metal piece, which is what she wore when first seeking out the Huntsman. The door to the vault with her hearts has the same pattern as the Queen of Hearts vault in her labyrinth, and it’s the same pattern to Mayor Regina’s Father’s crypt. The wall lockers holding the cases for the EQ’s hearts, Mayor Regina’s hearts, and the Queen of Hearts’ vault are all labeled with, ‘XC’.
Are the heart boxes reserved for specific people? The box EQ Regina had for Snow White’s heart is different from the box she used for the Huntsman.crabtremParticipantI’m not an expert on Fibonacci patterns, so I can’t say whether or not the pattern at the bottom of the hat (a presumption) is indeed related to a Fibonacci sequence. I did find it an interesting read to note that the Fibonacci sequence was found because he (Leonardo Pisano aka Fibonacci “son of bonacci”) had a fascination with rabbits and their reproductive characteristics.
So rabbits are shared by Alice in Wonderland, and the discovery of Fibonacci sequence; funny.[urlhttp://www.fq.math.ca/Scanned/1-4/wlodarski.pdf">http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/evolution/fibonacci-nature.htm/url]
So rabbits are shared by Alice in Wonderland, and the discovery of Fibonacci sequence; funny.
[urlhttp://www.fq.math.ca/Scanned/1-4/wlodarski.pdf This is a link to a paper describing Fibonacci sequences in the properties of atoms.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-aeevLwndhk/TOa0d72NjeI/AAAAAAAAAgI/ultjerxMmHo/s1600/Fibonacci+02.jpg/img%5D This is supposed to be an image showing how the Fibonacci sequence was used in the composition of the Mona Lisa.
Being so common in nature I would guess that the Fibonacci sequence is a happy accident for the show. I did notice the pattern in the bottom of the hat as it lay on the ground after Mary Margaret kicked Jefferson out the window.
Since Jefferson, and Grace may be references to the Jefferson Airplane for their song, White Rabbit; I’m also wondering if the daughter’s Storybrooke name of Paige is a tip of the hat to Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. He was acknowledged earlier by the name of the previous Dark One. There is also a guitar in the hat making room of Jefferson’s mansion.
Jefferson doesn’t say his wife, or daughter’s mother died. He said she was lost because of his work. I wonder if that is significant?
crabtremParticipantRumplestiltskin seems to be manipulating everything and everyone for some unknown end result. From allowing himself to be captured, exploiting James and Snow’s love, giving the curse to the EQ and making a deal for the next world. Now he was surprised by Belle’s love, and would have given in if Belle had not mentioned the Queen was involved. Now I know it’s not CSI, but I wonder why they never mentioned how surgical the heart was removed, or if there was any blood in the heart, or how long the heart had been removed (if they can tell that)? No one has said, where’s the rest of her? Why plant a heart at their spot? Jeez what kind of lawyer is Mr. Gold? Actually, out of all the characters, he is the most like a lawyer.
So I think it is generally agreed that there has to be some higher agenda with Rumplestiltskin. I think it is unlikely that he can see the future, but since he manipulates so many things, he can read more signs than others and see how things are trending. I have no idea what his end game might be, and how much the EQ is doing isn’t set up by Rumplestiltskin in the first place.
I had thought that the Faeries were going to be more of a challenge for Rumplestiltskin; but if they were the target in Storybrooke they aren’t immune to Mr. Gold’s influence. Had he no power or influence on the Nuns, I would think that they might be something that is central to Rumplestiltskin’s big plan.
So right now I’m as baffled as ever and loving it. The series could go in so many directions and I wouldn’t be able to predict a likely scenario for any.
Regina no longer has her keys, that means she no longer has access to her heart collection either. Will that be a story line, her panic when she discovers her keys are missing?crabtremParticipantMy initial thought is that Regina will use the existence of Belle as a tool, a shield if you will. So there will be some kind of conflict, and Regina will pull the old, back off or Belle get’s hurt routine. My other thought is that Mr. Gold knows Belle is alive, but his plan isn’t complete and he doesn’t know where she is. He planned the scenario of Storybrooke so the EQ would enact it, because only in Storybrooke can Rumplestiltskin still retain his evil powers and love Belle at the same time.
crabtremParticipantSo Grumpy was in jail when he first met Snow, both outcasts there too. So Grumpy got his name already, he came back to the mines because of the Blue Faerie. What did he do and why to go to prison? That must come later, and therefore Snow and the Prince come later. But Regina is already in Black with Belle, so it’s after the King’s death and Sydney is in the mirror.
I agree, Sydney is in the mirror and probably cannot be read by Emma. Regina is the Evil Queen, everything she says is smothered with cruelty and deceit. I mean everything Regina says is a lie, because she knows the past.
The Blue Faerie bothers me. She is in everything, she is like the most powerful magical being for good. She should be more of a threat to Rumplestiltskin than Regina. He toys with and plays with Regina, setting her up with the curse; leading countless others in this web of events because of his deals. He killed one Faerie and got her wand, but the Blue Faerie seems to be beyond his grasp. You would think he would want that power. I may be imagining things, but it seems like the Blue Faerie is a bigger player in all of this.crabtremParticipantI think Rumplestiltskin is at the center of this entire world, and it’s his plot for whatever purpose. He has been behind every piece of powerful magic used, with the exception of the quill used to trap him. I’m not sure who enchanted the tree they used to take Emma to the other world. Now we know that some magic has carried over with the Evil Queen and her hearts. But Rumplestiltskin’s power was placed in check, when he used the Blue Faerie’s quill to sign Cinderella’s contract. I’m wondering what would break that spell, and he seemed to know he was being trapped and let it happen. It may all be a plot by Rumplestiltskin to get to the Blue Faerie.
crabtremParticipantI have noticed the flask. It is fairly consistent when dealing with Rumplestiltskin; what he is drinking out of the flask is unknown but he drinks a lot. I noticed him throw it aside when Cinderella proposed her new deal. I think there does have to be some significance to it, but I have no idea what.
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