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*sigh* How many times…YES we’re upset about THE ACTUAL DEATH but MORE upset about the WAY he died and the complete character assinssination that came with out. Everyone trying to justify his death and I’m just like, “I would have been okay if he died for real in 221 or if his death had meant something in 315″ It’s not the actual death…it’s the way it was done.
I’m getting sick of repeating myself too to everyone. They have no idea. They chalk it up to immaturity or a ship or just unable to handle death and don’t even try to understand.
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It’s real And I can’t be in chat when they start justifying Neal’s death and how it makes sense so I came back here. I like it here. We have cookies
And we have twizzles. <3 Last night was really good for me. <3
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@textbookone The text Mckstemp quoted was part of my post from page 990.. I think it got drowned out by how quickly we are all posting 🙂
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Comment from Matt Mitovich on his article: (search “fool’s ” on the article page to find it quickly)
Michael Socha joining ONCE wouldn’t qualify as an April Fools’ joke. ONCE using a hologram of Judy Garland to appear as “Dorothy” would be a quality April Fools’ joke.
Comment by Matt Webb Mitovich – April 1, 2014 10:25 AM PDT REPLY TO THIS POSTKeeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
Ditto, RG. We still laugh. We still live our lives. But there is a natural physical response to stress that just has to take its course. Being severely disappointed in something you’ve loved and that has brought so much happiness to your life is normal. It is part of life. It is Tuesday afternoon and it just happened Monday. Many of us have been with this show for 2 and a half years. Neal’s death would have been hard, for sure, no matter what. But the way it happened adds a completely different element to the mourning process.
I was on a cruise and watched 221-Second Star to the Right on the first night of our cruise. I cried. I was amazed. I was deeply touched. I was pretty much sure that he was still alive, but I cried over his death. But guess what? I had an AMAZING time on our cruise. That was the very first day of our cruise, actually. And I was fine for the rest of it.
Yes we are in mourning, but the majority of the anger and stress is coming from the complete about-face the story did. I mean heck, supposedly Neal was just now understanding what it took for his father to come find him… WHEN WE JUST HEARD HIM SAY THAT ON THEIR WAY BACK FROM NL. It doesn’t make sense from a logical standpoint. It’s redundant. Him finding a way to NL was where the understanding came from. That was enough to make amends with his father and understand what he went through. And now we get another story and Neal wants to die again because he finally realizes what it took for his father to find him?? It’s a crazy cycle. It’s repeating what has already happened in the story.It’s retconning. It’d be like Hook saying “Oh BT DUBS, I just decided 5 minutes ago to give up my revenge for Milah and help you all.” UM that already happened and he’s already been helping them. See???? ughSo what we see here I think in all of us isn’t this deep depression because a death has bothered us and shaken us to the core. It’s injustice. It’s frustration. And yes it is mourning too. But it’s mourning Neal AND the show… Something very different than just being upset over the death of a character. It’s the death of a show.
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yeah. that post made me rage. Something went wrong, I don’t care what they say. There was only ONE person on this show that has gotten almost everything he’s ever wanted in life and needed to be a hero, and wanted to be a hero soo so so bad…. ONE PERSON this story line would have made sense with. Sorry. Not saying I wanted Hook to die, but a hero death storyline only made sense with HIM. THAT’S IT.
Maybe ABC strong-armed them into it, idk, but making someone a regular when you’re planning to kill him off. No way.
I read somewhere earlier that Adam recently said they actually didn’t plan the death UNTIL they were planning 3B. Not 3A. That makes much more sense, since you know… it makes NO SENSE AT ALL. At least it makes no sense for a reason.Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
dudette 🙂
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I already need a #twizzle chat session and it’s only 11:15am! Gonna be a long day…
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Imagine if they did bring him back…
And Emma saw him again…
And given their conversations in the woods…
She knows he holds no grudges for Walsh, because he’s been there too…
She knows that they totally get each other in that respect…
As well as in so many other respects because they still get along like old times…
And she knows that he honestly, truly, has no expectations from her…
She knows for sure that the “date” at Granny’s really wasn’t him pressuring her…
She knows, without a shadow of a doubt, that all he wants is for her to find happiness…
And having lost him the way she did, she now knows and can admit to herself and everyone else, without reservations, that having him back would make her happy, because she’s NOT gonna lose him again. I need this in fanfic, if not the actual show.Exactly. What would be a lovely story is if he comes back and all of this time she loses him so much to kind of jolt her into reality: QUIT DRAGGING YOUR FEET, let go of the past, and don’t ever lose him again. Because it could be gone in an instant. THREE TIMES. Gosh, I’d think after the last time she would have already been there. Because that’s character development. To go from the portal and the I love yous, to kind of brushing him off when he is ACTUALLY ALIVE, it just doesn’t flow. That should have been when she learned the lesson. But instead NL was THAT hard on her? Ugh.
But yeah, a great story would be him coming back and her never letting go. Because she’s made the same mistake three times now when all HE has ever done is sacrifice for HER. She keeps losing him in death. Over and over. 1. fake death 2. real death to her but not to him and 3. real real death. I just really makes me angry that he’s died so many times. Come ON. I get it if they were setting up for something larger like that. It’s like every time he dies the walls come down a little bit. Like it’s what she needs to snap out of the rut. *frustrated with Emma*
And Artsee, about Tallahassee..
COME ON. People cannot honestly tell me that they weren’t set up to be endgame from day 1. THEY CAN’T. People can interpret things differently. That’s fine. But you can’t twist words and you can’t deny what is shown on screen as fact. Tallahassee…. the way they introduced us to him… everything.And the whole “Well, Belle is not an authority on true love” thing… Really? This is a TV SHOW. Not a detective show. Unless the person is a villain, you can pretty much bet that the writer has made this person say this thing so that way WE KNOW IT’S TRUE. It’s kind of how we know ANYTHING by watching a tv show… there’s no narration.They have to communicate ideas to us SOMEHOW. It’s like when Aurora was telling Emma that she thinks Hook cared for her… but it was CORA who was saying that through Aurora’s heart to try to mess with them. It wasn’t even HOOK! And yet, they always use Aurora as an authority saying AURORA could tell. ??? And Belle who is not being controlled by a crazy murderous villain witch is suddenly not trustworthy? This is a television show. That’s how writers’ communicate with us and they expect us just take it and not question it, unless obviously it’s from a villain because that’s just COMMON SENSE.
Well I was doing really really well when I woke up. I woke up at 3:30am and was doing horribly 🙁 Felt so sick about it all. But this morning I felt a little better. Now I’m just stressed again but not sinking back to what I was last night. Just super super stressed. Because it just doesn’t make sense.
p.s. It’s really sad because I don’t know that I will ever be able to do a rewatch again. Just thinking about it is way too painful. I wish I would have never watched this past ep and just quit the show beforehand and never heard anything else about it, ever. That’s really really sad that it’s come to this.
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