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Participant@AngieBelle wrote:
There are going to be really cool sounding Once Upon a Time conventions in Orlando in November:
http://www.enchantacon.com/It figures that there is going to be something in Orlando now that I’m not living there anymore.
Exactly how I feel :-((((
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April 9, 2013 at 5:45 pm in reply to: Rumbelle 2nd Place in Voting out of 64 Congrats Oncers! #185309CrownedWithLaurels
ParticipantI can’t believe they made it this far! This is so great. I hope they can win… I mean… they’re up against a TV couple that doesn’t even exist on TV lol π π
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April 9, 2013 at 5:39 pm in reply to: Rumbelle 2nd Place in Voting out of 64 Congrats Oncers! #185303CrownedWithLaurels
ParticipantMan π they’re down now… 46%. COME ONNNN
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ParticipantP.s. (too hard to edit on my phone and I’m in a hurry)
P.P./Bae being in NL for +- 300 years explains the characteristics to me, although I thought he was Pan when he went through the portal in “The Return”, partly due to his characteristics being like Pan.
As far as the whole Moraine thing goes, she believed in him. She told him a story about the Blue Star/BF. I find all the parallels with her and Wendy very intriguing. Wish I had more time to sit and dwell on this stuff all day haha!
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Participant@Demileto wrote:
@Phee wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
I guess it’s all in the eyes of the beholder, these doesn’t seem enough to me to offset the fact that Bae’s characterization resembles little to nothing of what one would expected from Peter Pan; he’s not boastful, careless or cocky and he doesn’t strike me as someone who would have leadership skills.
But we haven’t seen yet how Bae behaved while he was in NL. We’ve seen him before, we’ve seen him after, but we don’t know how the character behaved and evolved during his time in NL.
When he left FTL, he was a scared, angry, alone, teenaged boy. I could see a kid in that position get careless and cocky, especially if he wanted to be a brave hero type, the opposite of how he perceived his father. And then whatever transpired during all those years in NL could have affected him in such a way that he changed again and became the man we see in Neal. I think that making Nealfire be Pan opens up all sorts of possibilities and would give us a wonderfully layered character with a fascinating evolution of epic proportions.
Fair enough. Truthfully, though, I think Neal has enough on his plate with him being Rumple’s son, Henry’s father and Emma’s love interest; he doesn’t need to be Pan to be a more well-rounded character.
My biggest beef about the theory, however, is really that it’d downgrade his relationship with Emma, which as a SwanFire shipper I think of as true love, to a Peter Pan/OC one. Peter and Wendy are usually portrayed as a young but true love that never lasts because Peter is incapable of comprehending growing up is a part of life, I’d think Wendy’d be the one he’d want to be with should he ever be portrayed as an adult, one of her descendants being the next best thing (hello, 1991’s Hook). For me to be even remotely okay with Bae being Peter they’d have to do some very convolutely storytelling to show us that Emma IS Wendy, which given the show’s timeline is quite unlikely.
I have had this discussion with my husband and we have come to the conclusion in original P.P. and Disney P.P, he was never really in love with anyone. He was 14 years old. He gave the mermaids and tink the same amount of attention and affection as Wendy. Yes in different ways, but I don’t see him showing favor to any one girl. There were things about Wendy (mothering, stories, etc) that he held dear to his heart, just as Tink (BFFs, long history)i. IMO, I don’t think there was ever a time originally where Wendy was intentionally portrayed as his true love. I am a hardcore SwanFire shipper and it doesn’t ruin it for me because I haven’t over-thought or fantasized him and Wendy’s (or him and Tink’s, or him and Tiger Lily’s ,or him and the mermaids’) relationships. Ive just taken them for what they are. I understand diving into other stories and such but for me I have never come to that conclusion personally.
This would sound way better. But I’m on my phone and the way the scrolling works on this board on mobile is such a pain so I can’t really go back and edit accordingly and make it smooth πMy husband says it best: “He was a rock star and they all crushed on him.”
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Participantme too, I was on the index and hit refresh and I said to myself, “what newbie just posted in the spoiler thread” haha. But it’s all good now π
Personal confession: I would regularly try to sound out “itachiIshtar” π
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ParticipantYes! I have. Over and over and over haha! I believe that was the first post ever that I read here on the forums when watching “The Return” for the very first time in November. I googled “is Baelfire Peter Pan” and that’s what I got! π π
My wording was confusing…
I just meant the theory is so much more than speculation, it is taken from things in the actual show, like, name meanings, timeline, etc etc etc. Meaning, the theory comes from all Adam and Eddy have put into the show and things we already have known and seen and heard, not just from speculation of peoples’ desires. Baelfire=Neal=P.P. theory wasn’t born out of “My favorite character is Neal so I want him to be P.P.” like many other theories are now, or different blog’s speculations; It was born out of so many facts and intelligent minds such as GoldenKey putting together all the pieces! πKeeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
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ParticipantI keep thinking about this and talking it over with the hubs. None of us know Peter Pan’s back story. This whole entire series, if Bae is Pan, would be Peter Pan’s entire back story AND future story. PP is K&H’s favorite. If Bae is P.P., the entire series, every nook and cranny would be Peter Pan’s story., if you really think about it.
How epic would it be if this entire time we’ve simply been watching how Peter Pan got to Neverland and why?
I’m surprised that in the moment where speculation for him not being P.P. is the highest, I am having all these thoughts haha.Also, there are only clues from the actual show and watching it unfold to point to him being P.P. That is where this theory comes from.
The only clues hinting to him not being P.P. are all speculation and interpretation of generalized spoilers. Which we can’t overlook, but at the same time, the track record for some of these bloggers/sites and their summarized form of posting interviews isn’t perfect.I’m not 100% sure that he is; who could be with this show?
But all of this stuff is making me think through everything all over again with a fresh mind.So many thoughts!!
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ParticipantHere it is.
http://notgoodwolf.tumblr.com/page/10Anonymous
Ok, you don’t have to say who was under the cloak but can you tell us if it’s a character that we’ve seen before or is it someone entirely new?Itβs someone new – and they had some neat makeup on.
β Shared 13 hours ago on March 27That combined with the fact that young Bae is in the pictures with the cloaked figure, I think it’s safe to say Bae is not the mysterious one under the hood.
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ParticipantSo confusing! I mean, they could be talking about Peter Pan in the second part of the sentence, but then the first part before “unless” wouldn’t make sense! π
I mean they use Nealfire so they have to have some knowledge of this show, I wouldn’t think they don’t even know Dylan Schmid= young Baelfire. I mean. It’s kind of the whole point of the series. π So I will chalk it up to grammar. π πKeeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
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