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Wow! And after only 2 episodes. 2 EPISODES!!! Snowing has had the entire season and Rumbele still beat them!
*Proudly Waves Rumbelle Flag*
@TheDarkOne wrote:
Hi guys! I’m new here and I just thought I’d give you a few thoughts on what I think of Rumpelstiltskin.
I personally see Rumpelstiltskin’s character as more of a tragic figure rather than an evil villain. Traditionally, tragedies are described as when good or decent make one fatal mistake that leads to their downfall. This is exactly what happened to Rumpelstiltskin. Before he became the Dark One, Rumpel was a good and decent man. A bit of a coward, however that doesn’t make you any less good. Most people possess some form of cowardice anyway, so I don’t fault him for that.
His wife abandons him and Bae for whatever reason (an affair, frustration or probably even death), so he’s left alone to raise a child that many don’t even believe is truly his. So from the outset, you have Rumpel already doing something that many men would refuse to do, especially given the time period they’re living in, and that’s raising a child on their own. Many would have given up their child or refused to a child whose whose paternity is under question. I feel like these are things that are conveniently overlooked when people talk about Rumpel’s character. Rumpel probably still has questions about whether or not Bae is his biological son, and yet he still created the curse and sacrificed everything just to find him.
Someone in another thread on this forum brilliantly said that if a man has the common decency to raise the child of another man, then that makes him a REAL MAN. A lot of people have no idea how difficult it is to raise a child, and given everything that Rumpel went through before he became the Dark One, I’d say he did a stellar job. UNTIL he actually became the Dark One. That’s when he screwed up.
Another thing people tend to forget is that after Rumpel became the Dark One, he saved thousands of innocent children from the Ogre Wars. That is no small thing. He ended an entire war. I think that should be highly commended. In the beginning, Rumpel meant to use his new-found powers as a source for good. Saving people, protecting his son. But the evil power of the Dark One slowly began to eat away at his goodness, at his decency. To me, I classify this as the ultimate tragedy. A good man has been lost all because he wanted to help.
I COMPLETELY AGREE!!! That fact that Rumpel’s intentions were so pure and honest when he became the Dark One is what makes this whole situation so unbelievably tragic. In fact, that seems to be a major theme in this show. Intent. I think Mr. Gold even mentioned that to Regina in “The Return.” Even if your intentions are pure and honest, even if you intend to help people with your new-found powers, it can so easily become corrupted.
The scene between Baelfire and Morraine was so odd. You have Morraine telling Baelfire about how Rumpel came into the middle of the battlefield and save all the child warriors. But then, a few minutes later, that inspirational image is coupled with Rumpel having just killed his maid. As time past, the powers of the Dark One began to eat away at him. He started out helping children and ending wars, but it ended with him becoming evil. It was an extremely tragic transformation to watch.
Thank you for clarifying your gender! 🙂 In our world of web usernames, it’s hard to figure out genders and pronunciations.
If you’ve been a fan since “Desperate Souls,” you have seen the first seven episodes, too, right?
Now that we’re in the hiatus, we’re working on an episode schedule. We’ll most likely back down to biweekly episodes, but may throw in some bonuses as they fit in.
@NONNIE wrote:
The writers seemed to be replicating the middle ages during Rumbles stories but EQ and Snow are much later in time more like the 1700s in costumes and environment.
In the middle ages, the lord of the manor had the right to be the first with a serfs bride ( virgins) or the pick of any woman in the village or farms. It was the custom and many babies were born as bastards from that practice.
The Dukes/ Lords of the manor and rulers have right over life and death over the peasants. They often would kick a farmer off the fields turning them out whenever they wanted. It was much akin to slavery. There were more haneous practices. I think the story will evolve that Rumple’s wife was taken by the lord of the manor as was the custom and that is why Bae is considered a bastard… he probably born 9 months or less after their marriage. Maybe Rumples wife was angry the Rumple could not / would not protect her and that is why she bailed.
Nonnie
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Very interesting thoughts. In this context, I could see Baelfire possibly being a bastard child. It also lessens my sympathy for the knights Rumpel killed at the end of “Desperate Souls.”
@hjbau wrote:
But his first name is Rumpelstiltskin isn’t it. People in the fairytale land have no last names. They just have first names. Right?
No, not Rumpel’s first name, Mr. Gold’s first name. 😉
@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
For some strange reason, I like the idea of Rumpel and Belle being linked through magic. I know it’s probably just my fangirl heart talking right now, but I think it’s kind of romantic.
Or at least it will be in the beginning.
I wonder if the pink enchanted rose from Disney’s Beauty and the Beast will come into play in season 2? If Rumpel is going to be working with true love magic from now on, then he’s going to need a symbol of that. Back in Fairytale land, the Dark One was always connected to the dagger. The dagger held some sort of power or control over him. But now that Mr. Gold is working with the magic of true love, he’ll need a new object or symbol. I think it’ll be the enchanted rose. 😀
