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It also worries me that this story structure of one villain per half season will lead them to burn through Disney/fairy tales villains very quickly. In three seasons and a spin-off we already got Rumplestiltskin, the Evil Queen, Maleficent, Gaston (lol!), Hansel and Gretel’s Blind Witch, the Queen of Hearts, Captain Hook, Jack the Giant Killer, the Pied Piper, the Red Queen and Jafar. When they had to change a character, Peter Pan, who’s usually portrayed as a hero into a villain, you have to wonder how many of them they can still play with. Of the big ones, to my knowledge, we still have Morgana and both the Wicked Witches of OZ to meet, but after those who comes next? I have no idea, and I don’t like it.
l’s advocate, if they HAD gone the route of Pandora’s box over killing PP, the questions of “will we ever see Pan again?” “Will someone open the box?” “Can pan ever get out himself?” “Why haven’t we heard about the box?” will never stop. And when the show ends in a year or two, if those questions are never revisited fans will never stop asking (I’m looking at you LOST).
So, this isn’t meant to be callous, but from a storytelling perspective, death is cleaner because it seems to be absolute.
Rebecca Mader’s villain could’ve retrieved the box and taken Pan as an ally for season 3B. 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]He’s fantastic, but I don’t want them to over use PP either or else we might start going “gee…when are they gonna deal with PP already? Shouldn’t be THAT hard to defeat him!”
It’s like if Cora had stuck around for all of S2, we might have started wondering when they’d just do away with her.
Defeat and death aren’t the same thing, though. Villains can be defeated without dying, as one can see from American superhero comics. Pandora’s box could’ve been used for this purpose, but instead they chose to rush another big evil plot for Pan and now the story has come to a point where his death is inevitable for the arc to come to an end. 🙁
I agree! I think the writers really dropped the ball with the infamous Hook and Peter Pan rivalry! That is the most iconic part of Neverland-lore, and they really didn’t develop Hook as a character as much as I would’ve hoped! I’m still waiting to find out exactly what “dirty work” Hook did as Peter Pan’s employee, exactly what things Tinkerbell and Hook went through together in NL, and why PP trusts Tinkerbell so much! I also wanted to see more of Hook’s interaction with Nealfire, both past and present, as well as flashbacks of young Bae as a Lost Boy. Also, I really wanted to see how the Darling children came to Neverland to try and free Baelfire. It seems like that story can’t be put on hold indefinitely, since children actors do tend to grow up quickly.
Yup, and some of these characters actually suffer from the lack of those backstory development. Take Hook for example: he doesn’t exist much as a character beyond being Emma’s love interest, at least to me, as they haven’t developed other, non-romantic engaging relationships for him, unlike his rival Neal, who has Rumple and Henry for that.
We need answers about:
–the drawing of Henry
–How Pan learned about Henry
–The full (or at least mostly full history) of PP/Hook/Tink
–Shadow questions
–Does Tink get her wings back
That’s a very tall order, so I hope they don’t leave some of this hanging
We should probably keep in mind that the questions they believe are still left open and that they’re planning to answer in “Going Home” may be but a microcosm of the ones we have. I’m not sure, for example, that we should expect anything else to be added about the Shadow.
That said, it’s indeed a tall order, and it’s the reason I hate that they’re killing Peter in “Going Home” and starting over with a new villain for season 3B. We may have had enough with the “rescue Henry from Peter Pan and the Lost Boys and bring him back home in Storybrooke” part of the story, but I can’t help but feel a lot more could’ve been done with Peter if only they weren’t rushing to end the arc with his death. What happened, for example, to the backstories of Pan with Hook, Tink, Bae/Neal and the Darlings? Especially with Hook: the rivalry between Peter Pan and Captain Hook is one of the most iconic ones in media, but we barely got a taste of it! And what will happen to Tink and the Darlings going forward? Be forgotten, like Ashley/Cinderella?
Latest Mega Buzz discussed this: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Nashville-Scandal-Spoilers-1074445.aspx
I tried copy and pasting here, but I couldn’t get the spoiler tag to work, so I just left the link.
Demos will be up soon. I suspect we stayed at the same 1.9
Nope, we got a 2.2!
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/12/ratings-news-9th-december-2013.html
Last night #OnceUponATime did a 2.2 rating making us the #1 broadcast drama series of the night! Thank you all!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 9, 2013
Speaking of odd things: wasn’t it daylight when the shadow was ripping Blue’s shadow off? I thought the shadow feared light? Different world, different rules?
We saw the Shadow in the flashbacks of “Think Lovely Thoughts” during daylight as well.
The second wish caused Edwin to forget everything and think it was a dream. What does this mean for his relationship with Alice? Can it be healed?
He didn’t seem to have forgotten everything for me; he certainly detailed his experience in Wonderland to his wife very well. It’s just that all that happened to him there is too much for him to handle; it’s easier for him to shrug it off as a dream, especially as he was about to die the minute before.
I thought Cheshire was supposed to be in this episode?
You’re right, according to this spoiler.
Hmm.
IIRC, This wouldn’t be the first time an episode synopsys of Once Wonderland missed a few guests in the list – the White King wasn’t listed in “Heart of Stone” either.
Red Queen and Jafar’s disdain for one another comes to a head, followed by a series of chaotic events. The insurmountable consequence caused by their showdown will put everyone in danger and lead to a drastic change
Well that sounds deliciously ominous!
Heh, I’m actually awfully reminded of episode synopses from The Vampire Diaries/The Originals by this, they’re always full of hyperbole! 😀
