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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I agree. I think a lot of the really big mythology questions will be answered in S3: Henry’s book, Henry’s adoption, the real puppet master, ect. They learned from LOST. Huge overarching myths are great, but you have to give people answers. So if they answer the really big ones in S3, then S4 and subsequent seasons can almost be a new mythology.

Agreed. Especially Henry’s adoption: it just occured to me that sending him to live in a cursed Storybrooke incapable to be found and entered by people from non-magical lands is the perfect way to protect him from being discovered by PP’s Home Office agents, who are most likely all from the Land Without Magic, so I’m sure it’ll be told sometime next season.

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@HappyEndings wrote:

What do you mean I never heard this part ❓

There were rumors (IIRC started by Vancity Filming) that Eion Bailey did not get along too well with the rest of the cast and that was why we didn’t see his character present time until “Selfless, Brave and True”.

I personally doubt it. Like I said, August to them was merely a plot device to separate Neal and Emma in a way that wouldn’t damage Neal’s character and when he fulfilled that part they simply discarded him. 😡

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@MysteryKat25 wrote:

As for the lost ones they left the island but they didn’t leave NL. I was under the impression that Wendy’s remarks were about leaving NL and not just the island itself, but rather the whole realm.

I agree, but that’s an ongoing confusion, likely fueled by Bae’s rejection to be taken to the island in “Second Star to the Right”.

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@Josephine wrote:

I have a feeling that they decided to just scrap the Jefferson/August connection.

I don’t hold much faith that we’ll see it either. We might still get Jefferson/Neal, but Jefferson/August? The very much talked about scene with them was deleted from “Hat Trick”; they don’t really need to acknowledge a connection between them, and with August have been reverted to a child I think the show’s done with Eion Bailey.

@Josephine wrote:

Has anyone actually seen the photos of them together that was cut from “Hat Trick”? I’ve heard all about them, but I’ve never actually seen them.

And now you do :):

@Josephine wrote:

But then we also have to figure out how August knew Neal was Bae.

There are a couple theories about that, but yeah, it’s one of those unanswered questions

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There are just so many unanswered question that might never be answered now that August is a little boy again (sorry, but that was the worst thing ever to happen on Once).

I don’t think anyone disagrees with you here. August reverting to a boy was indeed terrible, it shows just how creatively bankrupt they were regarding the character. It’s clear now that August’s reason to be in the show was merely as a plot device to have Neal abandon Emma to be arrested by the police without the former having ulterior motives, if they intended him for more interesting things they wouldn’t have him spend half a season just playing the mysterious stranger only to do nothing when his identity got revealed, disappear for almost the whole following season and return only to be reverted to a little boy, which to me screams character arc closed. Disappointing, really.

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@Gypsy wrote:

I do like the theory that August/Pino went to NL. And it still doesn’t cancel out the fact that he could have been in SB at least once before we saw him arrive.

I don’t disagree with that, I’m just saying that August and Neal didn’t necessarily need an intermediary to be presented to each other prior to “Tallahasse”. 🙂

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@AngieBelle wrote:

I don’t see a problem with Wonderland being a season behind. If they suddenly rushed to catch up, we’d be skipping over time. I think we will see subtle references in the new show to things that happened last year on OuaT. They are separate shows- Wonderland will be mostly independent with the occasional crossover.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel were separate shows too, having crossovers only occasionally. However, whenever they did the Buffy main character that guest starred in Angel was acknowledged as being away for a few episodes, first to account for the time to go from Sunnydale to Los Angeles and second to not overload the actor/actress with work. If crossovers are to be done between OUAT and OUATinWL both shows’ chronology will have to match up at some point, or we may face weird stuff like Belle and Alice having an adventure in WL in the second half of the spin-off’s season when she should be in the hospital without her memories.

As far as rushing things to catch up and skipping time goes, there’s an speculation that the White Rabbit’s portals travel through time as well. Who knows?

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@Gypsy wrote:

Someone had to know that Bae was Neal and that he was in NY in order for August to know that.
Regina and Jefferson were the only two with their memories and I don’t think Regina was the one to tell August anything.
Plus, if Jefferson wrote the book, would explain the typewriter that August had and used to convince Neal why he had to leave Emma.
August said he was a writer, but, Pinocchio was good at lying.
I don’t think August was really a writer. I think he got the typewriter from Jefferson when he was in SB the first time around.

August wouldn’t need anyone to tell him that Neal was Bae if he’d met him previously. 🙂

I’ve theorized – and there’s been good acceptance on this forum to the theory – that Neverland will stand in for the Pleasure Island chapter of Pinocchio’s life. Both the show’s Neverland and Pleasure Island are islands that are apparently the most fun place ever for a child to be but are actually dark and depressing places where you’ll find yourself imprisoned, never to see your family again, it’d be very fitting to have both be the same place in Onceverse and it’d provide a simple and elegant explanation for August knowing who Neal was: he met him in NL before his turn into a real boy, when he was just a wooden puppet. August then would have no problem recognize 23/24 year old Neal as being 14/15 year old Baelfire, but Neal would’ve never guessed the man in front of him was once the 7-year-old wooden puppet he met in NL.

I really need to put this into a thread of its own, kind of hard for people to keep track of it between multiple threads! 🙂

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@AngieBelle wrote:

Well, the Wonderland series is supposed to correspond with the events of the 2nd season, so if we see Belle in present day, it would be before the gang left for Neverland.

I expect they’ll have a scene or two showing time passing by in OUATinWL at some point if they really start the pilot with the arrival of the wraith. They can’t have the sister show be chronologically behind the parent one forever if they want to do crossovers here and there, after all.

@AngieBelle wrote:

Or maybe we will see a Belle from the past in her pre-Rumple days! That is still a story yet to be told.

I was thinking the same thing.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Interesting! I can totally see Belle helping out Alice for an episode or two. That might rekindle her love of adventure and help her to go find Bae.

In all fairness, the White Rabbit is now the most reliable and renewable source for realm travel with Jefferson’s Hat being destroyed and the wardrobe ashes and magic beans being consumed on use. The option is the writers having an exceptional creativity to bring new portal sources to the table in order to get Neal from FTL to NL and the gang from NL to SB, and that’s not even considering the possibility that Belle may be travelling from SB to NL to find Neal.

That said, it’d be a bit too early in the new series for a more impactful crossover, wouldn’t it? 😕

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@HappyEndings wrote:

How do you get Tinkerbell out of this tweet ❓

It wasn’t that one, but this:

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