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@winlea78 wrote:
Once Bae and Hook patch things up in the future. I think Hook -as captains can- will marry Bae and Emma 😀 on the JR
For a moment I thought you were saying that Hook, Emma and Neal would become a married threesome! 😆
[adrotate group="5"]@KFChimera wrote:
I think the more we care about someone, the more it hurts when they do something that harms us. Yet by the same token, that love and trust can help us to heal more quickly, so long as it isn’t completely obliterated by the wrong act. If Hook does rescue or try to rescue Bae, of course, they might have formed a friendship after all, but if it is left just as we saw in the finale, then I don’t think Bae will be anything more than wary and distrustful of Hook because he isn’t looking to be friends with him. He wants to reconcile with Rumpel on some level–but it isn’t going to be easy for him to do that.
That’s how I see this as well.
^ That’s a good guess, RG. Would definitely be interesting to find out that Peter meddled with Rumple’s carefully orchestrated plan to find Bae, adding his own twists. But I hope that Peter letting Pinocchio and Bae go would be done in a more subtle manner, as in he does it so in a way that makes them believe that they found a way out on their own.
@Keb wrote:
Oh, that would be a delicious way to play it, RG. It’s also possible he got there as a puppet–and could have escaped because he wasn’t a real boy?
That’s exactly how Pinocchio arrives in Pleasure Island in the original tale: as a puppet. It’d be very easy then for August to recognize Neal as the grown up Baelfire but not the other way around, as Neal would never guess the 23-24 year old man in front of him was the wooden puppet boy he met in Neverland.
I have no explanation as to how Pinocchio would get there and how he’d get out, though.
@HappyEndings wrote:
But if the fiery told August about the dagger don’t you think if it was the BF, that she would have known it wouldn’t have worked because of the no magic in SB 😕
Blue didn’t have her memories during the curse, she couldn’t have told August about it. At least not in that moment in “The Return”.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
7)Snow’s Dark Heart
I get the feeling we haven’t seen the last of Snow’s dark heartI agree, the “conclusion” we got sounded awfully similar to the prophecy one, as in they gave an emotional closure for the season by having Snow acknowledge that she wronged Regina and atone for that by refusing to build a future on her blood, but that hardly seems like the end of the storyline. They’ve hinted at Snow’s dark side since season one with Heart of Darkness, I’m willing to bet this is an element that’ll last for the remaining of the series.
And it’s comprehensible. Both Charming and Snow as characters and their relationship as a whole are so pure, idealized, this source of all goodness that they border quite a bit on the Mary Sue trope. It’s acceptable for their past lives in FTL as they ARE fairy tale characters, but in present day they need to have more complexity in their lives or their story becomes stale. Snow’s inner darkness accomplishes that in a way much better than adding another love interest for either of them, which would be totally out of character for both to go for it, not to mention it’d break one of the foundations of show, the power of true love. And frankly, I’d be quite a feat to come completely unscathed psychologically from being hunted down mercilessly by Regina for years.
About the magical hat, I think the better question is, how was the original one created? Jefferson apparently had no hand in that, or he’d have created one for Cora when he was stuck in Wonderland. Was it Rumple who did it, or someone else?
@Phee wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
Having experienced that, does anyone really think he’d trust Hook with Henry’s safety? For all he knows Hook’d do that just so he can extort Peter Pan of something.
Depends what’s come to pass in NL by the time Nealfire catches up with them again. Hook, Rumple, and Regina, will likely all be willing to engage in underhanded activities in the quest to get Henry back, but it’s anyone’s guess at this stage exactly how any of them will behave. If Hook does something in rescuing Henry that truly proves him trustworthy, then Nealfire will have to acknowledge that he’s changed and will have to reevaluate his opinion of him.
I agree, but I think this is something that Neal will have to see for himself, tales of Hook’s good deeds in their quest to save Henry isn’t enough for someone so burned by life as Neal is. Same thing for Rumple.
@Phee wrote:
[Turning the boat around was a good start towards proving himself, because Hook didn’t do that for himself. In fact, at the time he turned the boat around, his intention was to help save the town, and that included saving Rumple. Hook had officially let go of his centuries old vendetta. And if he went back and they failed to save the town, then his arse was toast along with everyone else’s. He put himself in harm’s way, to help save the Crocodile. That alone is a major change. And Bae told him that he’d never be able to change. Hook wants to prove the kid wrong and be a better man as a means of honouring Bae’s memory.
That’s very true, I agree.
They also can’t be blamed for the Sidney Glass fiasco – what can they do when Giancarlo Exposito landed such a good role in a successful show?
@KFChimera wrote:
It is not so much Hook should have put his foot down, so much as he should have tried not to profit from betraying Bae. Keeping Bae safe for his own good may have been as Snow calls it “the hard path”, but it seemed Hook had already set him up, rather than warning Bae. He may have been willing to cancel the betrayal, if Bae didn’t reject him for suspecting exactly that sort of thing in the first place.
^ This is why I think Neal will be far less tolerant with Hook than Rumple. Hook brought just as much pain to him as Rumple did, but Rumple at least would’ve never betray him out to the enemy like Hook did. Having experienced that, does anyone really think he’d trust Hook with Henry’s safety? For all he knows Hook’d do that just so he can extort Peter Pan of something.
