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I like how ABC didn’t mention Neal in the press release, but featured him heavily in the promo pics.
Schizophrenic much?
[adrotate group="5"]Ariel: I don’t understand. Why do we keep doing what he tells us?
Belle: Because he has a gun.
Ariel: What’s a gun?
LOL!
When he’s gone, Pan comes out of hiding. He congratulates Wendy for playing the role he asked of her. Pan planned this ruse to get Henry to believe in him. He orders Wendy back into her cage.
I can’t tell from the synopsys alone if Wendy did what Pan asked her to do willingly or coerced. Watching the episode is a must for me to clear this up.
Wouldn’t be surprised to find that Jafar also tried to get Sidney’s lamp and faced the same difficulties as with Cyrus’s – it was oddly lost in a river in Snow’s kingdom, after all. A quest that, of course, didn’t end well for him as Leopold freed the genie. Who knows, maybe Leopold should consider himself lucky to have been killed by the genie, Jafar would’ve given him a worse fate. 🙂
Demileto wrote: So, given the synopsys and the guest cast, I’m gonna take a guess and say our Old Prisoner is the King.
He seems like such a good fit for the Sultan/Jafar’s father though. And when RQ was there for dinner in the dungeon with Jafar, there was no interaction with the guy in the other cage, I don’t think? But if he was RQ’s former husband, you’d think there would have been. And his nationality fits with ruling Agrabah better than ruling WL, and I’m guessing RQ married a king in WL. It does say, “guest stars include” so I wonder if there might be more that aren’t on that list, including someone playing the king, and also Ana’s mother?
Well, when I posted that we didn’t know yet about Jafar’s daddy sultan woes. It’s a good point, but then there’s no one on the guest cast that seems to be the aforementioned King that gives Anna the ultimatum. Unless he doesn’t physically appear in the show…?
*Confused*
I’ve actually been loving the pace they’ve set this season. I think the split season into 2 mini-seasons has meant they’ve kept the storytelling moving better, because they simply don’t have the option of wasting air time with filler and setup, it’s just all character development and stuff happening. They’ve said multiple times that the NL focus was for the first 11 eps, and you can’t really end a NL story arc with Pan still alive and a present threat, so while he wasn’t my first pick for a death, I’m not really surprised that they’re killing him off.
Ending Pan’s threat didn’t necessarily need to equal him being killed, though. He could’ve lost his powers, he could’ve been banished to another realm, the list goes on. But yeah, they needed to close that to end Neverland’s arc.
I’m fearful, however, that after such a frenectic season 3.1 we’re in for a slow and boring season 3.2 as they’re left empty handed without a villain that can shake the characters and have to build another one from scratch, similar to what we had to endure in season 2 post-The Miller’s Daughter.
In order for Rumple to have recognised him in the Pied Piper scene, it would mean he’d had to have de-aged before going to NL, but I’ve been assuming that Pan went to NL when he was still young, with the intention of staying young.
Yes, and I do believe that happened.
I’ve already have a headcanon for Peter Pan is Rumple’s dad that fits incredibly well with two of the major questions that Adam and Eddy have stated the season would answer, namely why Rumple is so terrified to become like his father, why Peter Pan is so afraid of growing up. In my mind, Peter was your typical irresponsible teenager, but was forced into responsibility when he found out he had impregnated a girl. The girl, Rumple’s mother, died, likely in childbirth, leaving him to take care of Rumple by himself. It was too much for him and one day he couldn’t take it anymore: he got himself to be reverted, physically and mentally, to his teenage self to forever live the daredevil’s life that was abruptly taken from him by Rumple’s conception. He forgets being Rumple’s father, but Rumple doesn’t and resents his dad’s decision to this day.
Also, they were originally gonna show Rumple’s father actually dying in S2, they even shot the scene, so this would be a massive change, and I’d think they’d had a prospective storyline in mind for Pan since the getgo, with the hope they’d be able to use the character.
Indeed they had a different goal in mind with Rumple’s father, but here’s the catch: not only was that scene apparently not featured in the deleted scenes of season 2’s DVD and Blu-ray (or so I heard, I didn’t buy it) when we were all expecting it to as Adam and Eddy promised in Manhattan’s podcast, but they also didn’t use the actor that filmed that scene as Rumple’s father in the new season, choosing to cast a new guy instead. To me that screams that the role of Rumple’s father became far more important than it was originally, so they needed a more noteworthy actor for the job.
As far as having a prospective storyline in mind for Pan from the get-go, I vividly recall a tweet from Jane Esperson around time 3×03 or 3×04 was being written that they just had an insanely incredible idea in the writer’s room and how they were euphoric that it fit so well in the timeline. My guess is that the idea that Pan is Rumple’s dad began in that moment.
If Pan is definitely done after 3×11, I’m gonna be seriously annoyed. First Cora, now Pan, are they really going to be killing their best villains mid-season?
Most shows begin their seasons very slowly; ONCE didn’t this time. That was only possible because they wasted a ton of screen time last season with GOAT building up to Neverland, screen time that should’ve been devoted to the threat of Cora. I’m very concerned by the second half of season 2 if they really kill Pan for good.
Also, talk about wasted opportunities. I was SO hoping that, for once, I’d get to see Peter and Wendy end up together, guess they can’t help keeping that trope alive. 🙁
ETA that I was having another look at the tumblr page with the full report, and I don’t think this bit was there when slurpeez originally copied and pasted the whole thing earlier in the thread…
[EDIT: I just remembered something important about a recent casting announcement and I have theories – but I can’t for the life of me remember his face enough to confirm! He was, however, a middle-aged man. Let us speculate!]
Peter Pan is totally Rumple’s father de-aged, I’m telling you. 🙂
Contact lens are a new thing. They might not be available in Storybrooke.
Not all people like to use contact lens, and in John’s case the glasses are one of the remarkable traits of the character. He wouldn’t truly be John Darling without the glasses.
Maybe it’s not the Darling bros at all? (Though I really want it to be them)
It’s possible, sure, but honestly Glasses’s description fits John too well to think otherwise.
