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Let’s all be civil about this but….did Hook deserve to come back to life (by way of a god-blessing from Zeus)?
If you mean from a moral perspective then…I think not. I agree with WickedRegal and yourself. But another interesting question is: do you believe Hook deserves to return based on what he adds to the story? Is he an interesting character? Does he contribute to the plot? Are his dynamics with the other characters important to the show? For me, the answer to all three of the above questions is ‘no’. I find him rather bland, and his character doesn’t have much depth or complexity anymore. His sole reason for existence is Emma. He doesn’t drive the plot forward – not through is own actions anyway. As Screwball Ninja points out, Hook’s narrative function is that of a henchman. He is simply a supporting actor – these days, to Emma and the Charmings. Finally, he doesn’t have much of a relationship with anyone except Emma. Their relationship’s been front and centre this season, but it doesn’t integrate into the rest of the story all that well. It’s not like Emma and Regina, or Emma and Henry which really form the core of the entire show. Anyone else have any thoughts about this?
Hook is no more deserving than a lot of other characters. And the problem for me this episode was that if we were to put Robin and Hook on a scale next to each other, Robin would win – never really the villain, always putting others first, the father of two young children one of whom is now an orphan. I have nothing against Hook, but bringing him back and obliterating Robin is somewhat of a mockery, in my opinion.
[adrotate group="5"]Where to even begin? “Last Rites” …
The episode was very moving. Directing was good. BUT. First of all. An act of true love is never rewarded with death in a fairy tale. Therefore, Robin must return. Second of all, Robin goes head to head with Hades and selflessly protects those he loves, yet Zeus rewards Hook with life because he finds some book pages. I have nothing against Hook, but the balance is simply off here.
I get that the writers want to push Regina’s inner struggle even further. But there are so many other ways to do that than killing off another decent man, not to mention orphaning Roland.
Robin Hood is a legendary character with so much storyline potential and I cannot for the life of me understand how the writers aren’t tapping into this. I fully expect Robin Hood to return – anything else is simply going against everything the show stands for – at it’s core – hope and the belief that doing good matters. We talk about all the redeemed villains deserving a happy ending? But surely, Robin deserves his, seeing his children grow up – being with Regina … #OutlawQueen has been through a lot – much of which I do not like – but I love Regina and Robin together and their story has been my main reason for watching the show for a long time now. Hope and pixiedust are what they stand for – and without it, the magic is gone. So save Robin Hood. I’ll just sit here and wait until he rematerializes from the dust of the Olympian crystal.
And come to think of it … why didn’t Regina just poof the three of them back into the tunnels. It’s as if the writers forgot she has magic … So many holes ..
I am wondering if this is…maybe a little publicity stunt to get people watching?
That thought has crossed my mind too … Something is weird. Eduardo posting a photo of Regina in “widows wear”, Sean teasing “Is this the end for OutlawQueen?” They wouldn’t do this if he just died died, would they … ?
I’m still going with my heart split theory that Regina will give half her heart to Robin, but it won’t work until something something … Hence the promo about the heart of Storybrooke being changed forever …
Robin …
Except Adam said that the name would indicate something about the story arc for season 6 … Not sure that fits all that well with Robin …
Wait. I got it.
I was thinking that Robin dies at the hands of Hades – just because Hades is a villain, and then maybe Regina can do the heart split, but it won’t bring Robin back until her heart is as pure is his or something – which means she has even more inner struggles to go through.
What if that’s what the promo is about when it says it will change the heart of Storybrooke forever?!
That’ll give them time to focus on Regina without Robin holding her purse – yet she’ll have a happy ending to fight for …
I don’t think Robin’s death triggers Hook’s return, but rather it comes down to awkward timing. Hades kills Robin with that Olympian Crystal, and I’m still guessing that Zeus is responsible for bringing Hook back via the ambrosia. I guess it’s a life for a life in the sense that the writers felt that there needed to be another major death in return for Hook coming back. I’m sure from Regina’s point of view, she’ll end up blaming Emma, since Robin wouldn’t have died had they not gone to the Underworld in the first place.
It’s a mockery. Wonder what A&E meant that the episode would break hearts as well as ignite hope …
Probably. they have to come up with some way to rationalize why Robin can’t come back to life if he is in fact dead for good next week
It could have to do with the Olympian Crystal, the Magical MacGufin of the week. Maybe the Olympian Crystal has the power to kill a God, so if Hades uses it to kill Robin, then Robin dies in a way that can’t be undone. Otherwise, you’d think Regina would try a heart split the moment he dies.
Dedicating a season to saving Hook and then killing Robin – a good man and father of two young children – in just one episode (poof) is close to being a mockery storywise.
But yes, it probably has to do with the crystal. Hades saying in the promo that he’s not going to “kill” someone, but rather “end” them indicates that something irreversible happens to Robin, and I for one will hate it.
I actually hope that they do science vs magic again rather than just ”let’s get rid of magic”. I really enjoyed 2B.
That would explain the entry of Jekyll & Hyde …
Ugh. I hate this.
I hate that they are killing off Robin …
I hate that the writing is going in circles …
Come on!
Maybe Robin is struck by a curse that gives him a dual personality. Regina will be able to break the curse of course – but not if she doesn’t know where he is or that he’s even alive
Imma just talk this out for a hot second cause now I’m trying to put the pieces together…indulge me. So…it seems fairly obvious that however Robin dies, Hades has something to do with it. Either the lord of the Underworld kills Robin directly (which seems strangely unlikely since thus far Hades has had others do his dirty work) OR he sends someone to do it, like the Fury (this seems more plausible given when we’ve seen thus far this arc). However Robin dies, it would make sense that it has something to do with the Underworld plot, in other words. If the big conclusion to the Underworld plot is that Emma and Co manage to help the souls move on in Operation Firebird then wouldn’t it follow that Robin also moves on? OR does he try to move on, a “thing” happens, and he is brought back to life but sent to a psych ward (which, holy plot exposition needed, Batman!) So either 1) Robin doesn’t actually die but everyone believes he is dead (hence, the funeral) and S6A is all about finding Robin or 2) Robin does die but something magical/ploty happens and he comes back and is sent to S6!Arc!Land and still S6A is all about finding Robin
I think Robin doesn’t die, but everybody thinks so … And then he’s trapped in a psych ward …
Uhm … maybe …
