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Regarding the slippers, I do have to ask one question. Can you bring companions along the way via hand holding while wearing them? I don’t recall they ever ruled out that possibility.
Well, there’s Toto.
[adrotate group="5"]I think Chibnall and Moff suffer from opposite problems.
Moff is a brilliant one-off writer. Blink, the Library episodes, even this years Xmas episode…all brilliant, funny, clever but without being too complicated. The punchlines at the end of those episodes (Sally tells the Doctor everything he needs to someday help her; CAL is a little girl/River dies; River and the Doctor spend 20 years at the Singing Towers) all make sense and have a lot of emotional weight.He is not a brilliant show runner because he likes BIG and FLASHY over substance and he tends to get too bogged down into making each episode feel cinematic. He loses a lot of emotional follow through because he wants to get to the next storyline. His big narratives tend to be BIG and COSMIC but too confusing and unexplained.
Chibnall is very good one off writer but not stellar as evidenced by his DW body of work, but better still he’s a really great showrunner just based on S1 of Broadchurch and his work on Torchwood (he worked REALLY close with Davies on it). He also does some phenomenal character work; again I point to Broadchurch.
Also, how have you not seen Broadchuch? You’re British. It’s a crime against nature to not have watched S1 and marvel at Tennant and Olivia Colman. The Queen is judging you right now.
I liked Chibnall’s Doctor Who episodes, but not his Torchwood series one episodes (which is interesting, because I preferred series one over series two). Hopefully, Moffat will still do the occasional episode (unlike Russell). He (Moffat) also wrote “The Empty Child,” which was my favorite Nine story, and “Listen,” my favorite Twelve story.
IMDB is now listing Emma Caulfield for not just 512, but also 513, 516 and 518. How strange. Keep in mind, IMDB isn’t always reliable: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0146536/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Interesting. If its true, perhaps she will have a bigger part. They never did explain how the blind witch got the cursed apples. I mean, did Regina create them and she stole them? Or did she make the apples and Regina stole them? But that contradicts what we know about Regina getting the sleeping curse from Maleficent. So did the blind witch steal the curse or the apples from maleficent? Hmmm
I had always thought it went like this:
– Regina grows the apple.
– Regina takes the apple to Maleficent.
– Maleficent says, “Sure, I’ll curse it, but all magic comes with a price!”
– Regina gives Maleficent the Dark Curse.
– Maleficent curses the apple.
– The Blind Witch steals the apple.
– Regina returns to Maleficent with another apple.
– Maleficent says, “Sorry, no replacements!”
– Regina sends Hansel and Gretel to get the apple.Appears that Sabrina Carpenter will appear in 512 as Jane Stuart
Considering she’s a pretty big name, recently (unlike when she was on OitNB), we haven’t heard anything about her being on-set, and the name seems pretty out-there, I’m taking it with a grain of salt.
Although, I do think she could play a young Maleficent.
I think Once has jumped the shark because the quality of recent seasons has been nowhere near the quality of the first two seasons.
No kidding.
I would consider keeping Hook on the show to be jumping the shark, a failed jump. I would also consider them doing Frozen to be jumping the shark as well. Both of these things were changes that were made at the last minute because they thought it would keep people watching.
You’re thinking of a ratings stunt. Quoting the linked article:
A poorly-executed Ratings Stunt may cause a show to Jump the Shark, while having many in a single season may indicate the show already has.
Jumping the shark is merely defined by TVTropes as:
The point where a series is officially undergoing Seasonal Rot.
It is not something that is intentionally done, unless the writers are deliberately trying to screw over their show, so it will get cancelled. Whether or not Adam and Eddy are doing that is something we could debate for ages. I, personally, think they’re just that bad of writers.
Call it what you will, but I think the show took a nosedive in S3b. For me, the last good episode was probably Going Home. I could’ve been satisfied with that episode being the entire series finale.
Absolutely agree. I thought that episode was so well done. And it really truly felt like a series finale. As far as jumping the shark is concerned, I think season 4A fits that description the best. However, I think I’m one of the few people who enjoyed the frozen arc. So while it may have “jumped the shark,” I thought it was actually well done in how they were able to twist the frozen story, recreate a villain from the stories that frozen didn’t use, and then make us feel sorry for her when we found out what her true intentions were. And I enjoyed the ending because we never really had gotten a villain sacrifice themselves like that (other than Rumple I guess). It proved that although the Snow Queen was a terrible person, once she got what she wanted (unconditional love from her sisters), she saved everyone and sacrificed herself. And the scene with her running with her sisters again was heart breaking. Plus they foreshadowed everything with the note Elsa’s parents sent overboard, and I think they also incorporated Rumple very well into the arc. The frozen arc fit with the ouat universe. It left some characters in the dust, and it was a huge attempt at ratings, but I actually enjoyed the arc and enjoyed Elizabeth Mitchell a lot.
So although they jumped shark, I think it was rather successful. I enjoyed it way more than season 4b. At least there was resolution in 4a with a definitive ending. What we got in 4b and 5a was unfinished and inconsistent storytelling.
I, for the most part, enjoyed both season 4 arcs. It was character derailment/misuse that bothered me (especially Rumpel and Will, respectively). The whole Zelena thing bothered me. Also, as a Swanfire fan, I was not fond of the CS stuff, obviously.
3B and 5A, on the other hand… They had their moments (505, for example, I enjoyed).
But I definitely agree with this, although I’m pretty sure this would qualify as averting jumping the shark, in our opinions.
According to TVTropes, many factors can contribute to jumping the shark, not necessarily a ratings-grab stunt. Some highlights (my notes in boldface, emphasis in italics):
A popular character (Nealfire) is removed from the show, or even killed off. Especially true if the method of removal is unsatisfying or mean-spirited. This can be considered a single-character form of The Firefly Effect. The standard candidate for this treatment is the heart/the chick, who will usually also be an introverted, quiet, and relatively pacifistic character; who the executives will want to replace with a character (Hook) who is Hotter and Sexier and easier for the writers to develop ideas for, and probably also an actor who has greater artistic ability.
An existing character evolves in a way that flattens rather than enriches them, or which contradicts prior depictions of said character. This can have the effect of alienating fans.
A character becomes a Creator’s Pet or a Canon Sue.
A Breakout Character gets too much screentime. While it pleases fans most of the time, it will sometimes make the show less creative. (Accusations of show becoming “Once Upon a Hook”)
A jarring rise/decline in the sliding scale of villain threat (Zelena), unless it’s written well and/or used for comedic purposes, such as a big bad trying to take over the local 7-11 being usurped by one bent on destroying the galaxy.
The plot is resolved with one too many plot twists or retcons which are inconsistent with the overall narrative, poorly executed, or are just plain stupid, turning the audience away.
A major plot point is apparently resolved only to be immediately unresolved—over and over again. (Rumpel keeps being pulled back to the Darkness)
Too many continuity errors.
A Romance Arc overtakes the series; a non-romance plotline key to the story is shelved in favor of focusing on the couple. (Accusations of show becoming “Once Upon a Captain Swan”)
All of this before the article begins listing gimmicks.
Doin' some fine tuning of the #OnceUponATime Midseason premiere. Almost done! Hope to see ya March 6! #OnceTurns100 pic.twitter.com/L51uGc6b8t
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) January 23, 2016
Hmm…
Eddie Thawne on The Flash. That’s my guess.
The article said it’s a long running show. The Flash is only in its second Season, so that hardly qualifies.
The Flash is a “long-running” show! 😉
