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Yeah. The whole name-the-baby-Neal has a very high ick factor to me. They named her *brother* after her *lover* Ooookayyyy then!! We all figured Ginny cried because she was touched… perhaps she was just apalled. Given that our formerly bubbly and tight knit cast has all but disappeared from social media, it would not surprise me. It doesn’t seem this turn of events went down well AT ALL. Perhaps because the poetry they’d been promised since the show’s inception turned into “Blarggle” overnight?
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I doubt it will do a darned thing but I suppose it won’t hurt. Sending it to the official OnceABC account would probably be the most logical thing to do, we know how ABC loves their social media.
Reminded today that I am horrible at grieving. Last night, I had to be quiet so I didn’t wake roomies, so I couldn’t cry like I needed to. Today in car, eyes would not stop leaking. Get home, give myself full permission to sob so I can get it OUT and stop this nonsense and… nothing. My stomach hurts and I am mildly teary.
My meltdown after 315 was nearly a decade in coming and I was so hopeful I could get this out in an appropriately-timed manner. I just need to cry and pick up and move on with my life but right now I am too upset to be functional but not upset enough to let it out. Today was a wise day to schedule myself off :). I can’t even read fanfic and y’all know fanfic is like my air!!!
Bah, this is why I am not allowed to ship. I have inappropriate emotional responses to unimportant stuff… I swear I am going to make a poster of all of the craptastic hurtful stuff that happened in the whopping two months I was in this fanbase and put it on my wall, so I remember next time I am tempted. It will just start with the numbers, “315.” For something that is “not important,” why does it hurt so bad?!
(Yes, this post was all about me and not about SF. All I have to say about that is to repeatedly yell “IT’S EFFING RIDICULOUS!!” at the top of my lungs and that’s just not productive. That’s really where I am today. All of the amazingness that should have been, and just, no, for reasons of extreme stupidity. Everyone else, yes, crushed hearts and burned at the stake and dissolved into goo and shadow-ripped and flying monkeyed and sleeping cursed and and and… but stick a meat thermometer in a manhole cover and YOU ARE DEAD FOREVER. EFFING RIDICULOUS!!!!!)
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With respect to the headcanon – yes. I do appreciate that they left themselves a modicum of wiggle room, by Rumple being told in the past. If I understand correctly, in the film, Marty was left to think Doc had destroyed his future clue, but indeed Doc had made a different plan. If A&E are able to finagle their story back – ratings drop, ABC backs down, Colin leaves, finale, whatever – they can leave themselves that loophole and have Bae out there “somewhere” for Emma & Rumple to go find. I don’t expect it soon, and I maybe expect it never, but I feel better knowing that door is not closed, permanently forever.
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It’s completely unbelievable, Phee. (Erm. Cross-posted. The 180 is unbelievable. The headcanon is great!)
If this is ABC thing and CS is a mandate, I can understand that, and I can understand Neal needing to be dead for that to happen, I can hold A&E harmless for that. Where I do lay blame, though, is for how they opted to tell this story. You need CS by 322? Fine. How about you leave Neal dead after 221, or “dead” as I suppose the case was (even better,) and spend 22 episodes logically developing it as a love story? I still would not be pleased, but honestly, we would have been without the SF buildup in 3A, we would have been without Emma’s constant rejections of Hook that made CS send all the WRONG messages, and it could have been a gradual buildup that felt organic. That making out at the end of 322 could have been an “earned moment” that A&E were so fond of talking about. But instead, it was a 180, not just of the season but within the episode! It turned on its heel there at the end, for no other reason than to be exactly what it was. THAT part, I can and do fault the writers for. It wasn’t organic, it wasn’t earned, and there is no reason in the world it should have been.
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Onyx, it’s absolutely true. Emma had nearly no purpose in 3B. She did save Henry from Z in the boathouse, but apart from that, all she did in 3B was magically separate Neal. (She was, at least, part of the team in 3A.) She could have stayed in NY without materially effecting the season.
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The connection between Neal and Emma is an integral thing woven into the moral of the whole show. I can’t believe they just tossed it aside like this.
Yes. It’s madness. Insanity. And I fail to comprehend how it won’t be their undoing. The SF family dynamic love story is what drove the whole show. It’s like – going back to the WoT fabric/dreamcatcher – they just yanked a bunch of threads out if that thing, there is nothing to do but watch it unravel.
We’ve gone from “bring back all of the happy endings” and “the start of a happy ending is hope” to “happy endings aren’t always what you think.” Sure, maybe not, but I’m pretty sure they’re also not death.
OMG THIS! Nevermind how impossible it will be to re-watch any ep the involves Bae in any way, knowing how his poor sad life ended up, but all that subtle stuff they did with Emma way back in the start of the show, you’re right, it will be impossible to re-watch without feeling that it’s now hollow.
Yeah, I can’t – I just can’t. I don’t think I could ever get rid of my S1&2 DVDs – I love the story entirely too much – but I also don’t think I can watch them, either. They’ll sit on the shelf until probably finale, when hopefully they find some sort of crazy Lost-esque way to get these two crazy kids to Tallahassee.
Yup, given that they’d established their bond as being so strong and enduring, there’s just no way they could have put their hot new couple together while Neal was still on the canvas.
It’s insane, really. I joked a while back that our ship was so awesome the only way to end it was death, but I’ll say it again and I’m not joking now. It’s insane, really, if the only way to write one side of a triangle is to kill the other half.
Just realized, right now, what they did with OQ. It was their SF vindication :/ I had some posts earlier about how they were writing them as parallel – Robin’s lines about being a thief and losing Marian due to one of his jobs and such. It was so clearly worded in a way to parallel Neal losing Emma via the watches… here I thought OQ was the SF parallel, what with all of the “Regina and Emma are the same” talk in interviews. But no, OQ was the CS parallel, cute enough, but too rushed, too easy, and we knew it would never last. Because as soon as the missing family member ceased to be dead, it was crystal clear who the choice was – there was no choice – and the reformed villain instantaneously lost out, without a second thought.
And that’s why Marian came home with them. If they couldn’t fix SF with this time traveling adventure, by bringing Bae back, they at least could fix the SF parallel family. Dang. Crying again.
ETA: And that’s that scene at the end of 315, that seemed so wrong and out of place. If I had the heart to stop and think about it, I’d wager to guess we could find the tale told parallel all through 3 – beginning with the shadow & dark castle, through the Belle discussion in 312 and right up to the end there of 322. Dang. I am not sure if I feel better or worse, realizing that.
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Serial posting so I don’t cross-edit while someone else posts.
One other thing that scene does is adds extra poignancy to her first meaningful scenes with Henry being in a park. Where she explains about being without a family, nonetheless. Just when I thought Pilot couldn’t get any weightier. :/
THAT my friends is what made Once so amazing. And that, my friends, is what they’ve lost by insisting on retconning the crap out of this story.
I do wonder, of S4, what will it be about, really? The show, on the surface, was about Emma finding her way home to her family; as you dug deeper, it was about Rumple finding a way back to his son. It dovetailed as those two stories merged into one. But both of those motivating factors are gone, now; Emma is home, she knows her parents, she has her child, and Bae is dead. What becomes the driving force at the center of the show?
I wonder if that’s truly why 3B was so bad; it was a show without a central tether. 3A was still centrally about the small SF family – saving Henry, Neal’s journey to get to his family, Emma finding her identity as a lost girl. But 3B just kind of wandered without a core; kill the witch was the whole point of the show and it just rung empty. We all felt it, certainly. Is 4 likely to be better? Doubtful. Neverland wasn’t the strongest story ever, but it “felt” on track. Without that core motivation, I just question whether Once could ever even “feel” like Once again.
I’ve never, ever seen a show jump the shark in front of me like this one did at 315. And unless they do some serious retcon magic, I am not sure if it is even possible to right the ship at this point. They had the opportunities, but would not or could not take them.
Heartbroken. I’m gonna miss this show so badly.
“I’m finally walking away cause you’ll only hurt me… you’re not worthy…
I won’t let you pull me in
‘Cause I know you’re gonna win
So the war is over…
I can’t fight you anymore
I’ve never been so sure
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One thing that I did like about that scene, is now I feel like we’ve seen the moment where she fell for him, or at least, started to. It’s always been my headcanon that he fell for her pretty much instantly – by the time we got to “You could have just asked for the keys” he was here. That look in her eye at the end of the swings scene, to me, is the start of her falling headlong off the cliff of her true love.
“You were a thief, you stole my heart…”
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Rainbow, the scene was filmed in Vancouver. I’m guessing it was freshly filmed for 322 – the dialogue felt more like 322 – although I did, too, wonder if it was filmed way back when they did Tallahassee.
Ginny specifically said the secret scene was the last scene of the ep, didn’t she?
Onyx, that’s really where I am now, if ABC dictated CS then A&E are doing what they can to translate their initial vision and hang onto the scraps. How can I not have compassion for that? I sent a long tweet last night, not without bitterness, but at its core saying thank you for the story. Because it is a beautiful story. And if this was not all by choice of the writers, then I want them to know that there are some out there who recognize that they wrote an amazing love story, even if we only got to see it halfway through. I’m curious how they saw them coming back together, and I hope some day we hear, but for now, I am choosing to hold harmless. For me, I would rather aim my anger at a network than at two people… it might be misplaced but it feels less damaging that way. Plus, on the outside chance that it is ABC-dictated and they had to flush their own story, that they spent a decade developing and a couple of seasons setting up – that’s gotta hurt like h*ll and I can’t in good conscience add to that. It kind of makes the most sense to me, based on what we’ve seen, and based on how networks work. They went CS but did their best to still infuse SF into it; he sent the message to get Emma home, gave her the identity of home and the tools to get her there.
It still hurts though, it hurts a ton.
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In case it’s important to anyone else –
Playland, Vancouver, BC. (Roller coaster nerd, I knew it couldn’t be too hard to find with that coaster in the background.)
Irony, the ride you see behind them that says “Crazy Be” is the “Crazy Beach Party.” The swings themselves seem to be called “Wave Swinger,” a pretty standard name for a model of swings (also known as a swing carousel.) I am guessing that’s more coincidental than anything, but, there it is.
Although, alternate view –
The lights sure don’t appear blue in the bulk of the lit pictures I am finding, so I’m guessing the observation above about the color is non-accidental. Plenty more images here, thank you Google, and here’s one where it is lit blue —
Why put so much thought and care into a story you killed episodes ago, guys? Why? It just makes it hurt more, you know. Because you COULD have done it so beautifully. But instead, you kill our guy, and hand his family to the pirate who took his mother away. It is just.so.wrong!
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