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I don’t like this arguing. It makes me sad. We are all on the same team here… I love you guys to pieces and would not have made it through the last month without you all. I need you to know that.
*Hugs knees to chest and rocks in corner, singing, “It’s always darkest before the dawn…”*
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Since I don’t know the source of how people know MRJ’s whereabouts, I’d just like to introduce the concept that if someone is invested enough in NOT being seen somewhere, it is really not that hard to scoot them in or out around prying eyes.
As always, it doesn’t mean it will happen. But just like how “no one” knew the vault scenes were filming, despite the fact they were done on location, scooting someone onto and off of a closed set soundstage without detection is not even a little bit hard. I have seen way, way crazier things in my years of fanning. 😉
No intention to argue or debate about the topic. Just saying that.
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McFly has a point – last week’s ep included Zelena’s tease to Rumple about bringing Bae back. GA wouldn’t be insane to take that conversation and expect something to come of it. Is that what attributed to the increase? Not entirely, perhaps not at all. But that expectation wouldn’t be off-base. Generally a tease like that would come with some play out.
Adam said MRJ’s door pic was reshoots, right? It wasn’t. The thing about untruths are, if you get caught in even one, all things you say get called into question. So while I concede it is unlikely, I
am definitely putting a smidge less stock in Adam’s comments than I had been.It’s the same thing I’ve discussed before – why is everyone so quick to call them liars and trolls in one breath and then say “But Adam said!” in the next. Either he’s trustworthy or he’s not.
Incidentally, and for the record, I actually don’t have a problem if A&E tell the fans things (with regards to the show) that are not clear and truthful. When you have fans who know every.single.thing, I really wouldn’t blame them if they started spewing false spoilers and insinuating different stories than they planned to portray on screen. How else do you keep these fans guessing? So I make my above points not to say, “OMG, Adam is an evil liar troll,” but rather to say, just because he said it does not mean it’s the absolute last word. If – and admittedly a giant if – they are trolling their fanbase on this one, then I expect them to try to semantic around it as much as possible – but heck yeah, there are bound to be some untruths if questions get pointed enough.
With regard to Mittovich, well, doesn’t Adam say to trust stuff only from him & Eddy 😉 They have never said, “this is the permanent death we teased over hiatus,” only that “Neal is dead.”
Neal is dead can be truthful even if they plan a return. 1) The Neal Cassidy persona may be dead, but it doesn’t preclude the return of Baelfire (and by this I don’t mean Dylan, just the shedding of the Neal persona.) 2) Charming was dead. Now he’s not. Dead is NOT necessarily dead, especially with guy left in woods & closed casket, given the history of sleeping curses, preservation spells, etc. 3) Timey Wimey stuff, which we all know is coming, should bring him back if we go back anywhere from 1-270 years.
WILL it? No. But those are all ways that the “Neal is dead” statement could be 100% true without Neal’s death being the death spoiled in the spoiler of doom.
I’m insane – very insane – but I am also not completely out of left field here. These guys LOVE their semantics.
RG, how do we know MRJ’s whereabouts for the entire two weeks the finale was shooting?
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Were they up over 317, or just over 318?
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Yeah, I guess if they’re rolling time back and forth they could probably figure out how to pull Henry along. I was thinking we’d be back at the consequences of 311 but I guess we’d actually be forward at the consequences of 320-something and it’s different.
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But how will they defeat her without Emma, Phee? She goes back with them and Henry is sent to NYC on his own?
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Yeah, I don’t know why no one has tossed a bucket of water on her, just on the off chance that it worked.
Crack theory: what if Dorothy-in-SB tells them how when she was in Kansas, she used the well to destroy the WWE, who looks strikingly like Z. So they (somehow) put WWW down the well, which restores that which is lost to you, and up comes NealFire? Super cracky and there are like 43 reasons it won’t work, but we DO know they filmed at the well.
Anyways, I just wanted to address this from Janet –
I think I am going to stay from the tents things because I have no clue what they are suppose to be for and they sound kind of creepy…
Of all of the strange & frightening things in this thread, the tents are actually one of the most sensical. It went something lie this –
*I showed up in the thread as a stranger, and asked if I could take up residence in a corner of Castle Tallahassee (ie, the thread.)
*Around the same time, things got really bad “out there,” due to the spoiler of doom – so I modified it to hiding under a table in the corner… Since apparently the sky was falling.
*Shortly after 315 aired, I went out of town and was MIA from the thread a few days. When I returned, I joked that I brought a tent, so that I could continue to camp out in my tent under the table in the corner.
*For whatever reason, after 315/316 I was left with inexplicable optimism that “it’s not over” and therefore the tent became the tent of optimism.
*RG is pretty much the polar opposite of me, so eventually she pitched her own tent, heretoafter labeled the tent of doom.The tents are then essentially symbolic of where we stand with regards to hope of Neal’s return – Phee is pretty firmly on my side and RG doesn’t really move, but most of us (myself included) have floated back and forth week-to-week and even day-to-day. No one is forced to crawl into the tents, of course, but they are a handy metaphor of our mental state – sometimes optimistic, sometimes pessimistic, always a little bit insane. 🙂
For the record, almost all of the injoke concepts you see us banter about (rogue bison, Captain Potato, the map) originated in the thread. I know we hit pg900 just before Neal’s death, which is coincidentally when we all went insane, so that would be a good starting point for backreading for anyone interested. 🙂
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One last quick quip before I go actually, you know, do my job –
Let’s not forget that the song in question – important enough to title the episode from – which contains two guys taking different paths in love and a white dove – is from Back to the Future. That’s tying the two key concepts here, being argued by Slurpeez & Phee – the WoT/changing the past and the current romantic climate.
BTW, I have never seen BTTF (I know, I know – you can lecture me over summer hiatus. Stay with me here!) I have some passing familiarity from pop culture, of course, but no details. I just went and read a plot synopsis – the plot is about a teen needing to ensure his teen parents meet so he exists? And a *clock tower* is important? Hmm, perhaps we have found the plot for our AU S4…
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The original Operation Cobra was designed to bring back the happy endings too, not just break the curse.
Well then, let’s bring ’em back.
Pretty sure for Emma & Henry, that includes the third member of their family.
Today, I am all things teamHenry. Was so glad to have him back last night. I had forgotten how much I missed that kid.
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