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ParticipantThey had to refer to MRJ because the original confusion was about Michael Socha. I hate the flippant way they talk about Neal being gone. Part of me wants to rage about their blase attitude, and part of me thinks itβs more evidence that heβs not really gone for good.
Yeah, I get WHY the quote was that way. But it was still semantically different than the other comments they’ve made, and since I’ve been riding on semantics…
I mean, certainly, they could still just be trolling the fanbase, and I think there’s a significant liklihood. I just didn’t like that comment.
Apart from that, :yeahthat: Phee.
Artsee, love the manip!
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ParticipantCorbin – with regard to the Rogue Bison – Backread the thread, it’s all in here π
Alright, I must ask everyone: if Neal was resurrected, how would you all feel?
I think the key to the answer to this question is what does “resurrected” mean. If we are getting Daniel ala The Doctor – no thank you. Please just let him rest in peace. But if we are getting MO322 – preservation spell/body swap/flying monkeygate/TLK resurrection, then yeah. If they do it right – really really right – then I won’t go so far as to say ALL is forgiven, but I will hold far less grudge. I mean, 315 is still OOC, unless they want to say the curse (or anti-curse and then subsequent curse… whatever has happened to these folks in and since 311) has altered personalities like the original curse. But if they want to give me back my show – because right now what is appearing on my screen is just not something I am enjoying – then I will take it. But, I think if they’re going to do it right, bringing him back NEEDS to have Emma freaking embrace him as important in her life – “holy cow, I have lost you THREE times, don’t ever do that to me again, I need you,” with her willing to SAY those things to him when not under threat of death or truth-required uncaging. And are they willing to do that? I don’t know. I hope so.
When we speak of MO322, I think about how JMo said that “the best is yet to come” for Emma, with 321/322. If that means the return of her TL in Nealfire, and her actually WILLING TO BE HAPPY for a minute, then I’ll concede that perhaps the death was necessary for the story – because EMMA needed that push of losing him *yet again* and living without him for a while to realize what she was TRULY missing. But… since she appears to be completely unaffected by his death… I am not holding out for that. It’s what would be gratifying to me, as a viewer, to see progression in the story that was 2.5 seasons in the making, but if it’s not what they choose to do? It wouldn’t surprise me, as I watch each episode this season sink further and further into “WTF am I watching.”
I don’t ship SF because I want them bam happy ending together. I want to SEE their story, I want to see them deal with the stuff that A&E so carefully set up. They SHOULD have conversations about the hurt. They SHOULD have conversations about how to move past that. How can Emma deal with the fact that she still loves the person who hurt her so badly? How can Neal deal with his self-hatred over the situation? What about her reacting to the fact that she sort of wished him dead in Neverland – and that she had a hand in his death in the woods? WHERE IS THIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. How about the fact that we NEVER saw Neal react to the fact that his kid was given up for adoption and just recently located? And, most stuck in my craw at the moment, I would reallllly like to see him fulfill his promise to see his kid again. He was supposed to break the cycle of abandonment… that doesn’t mean “go die in the EF to resurrect your Dad,” that means BE AROUND TO BE A PARENT to your son.
But oh, wait. His story was done. (There is no emoticon in the world that makes an angry enough face to put here.)
If they resurrect Neal, I want it to be for that. Let’s actually DEAL with some of the plot, instead of just villain after villain. And let it resolve the triangle. Because if Emma is still conflicted (although IMO she’s not and never really has been conflicted) after losing a corner of the triangle TWICE, then clearly it’s not that important to her.
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ParticipantWelcome Corbin π
RG, that makes me think of that Twilight Zone episode. It’s not good feels, lol!!!
Anyways, I randomly remembered this song today. I loved it when I first heard it probably fifteen years ago, and had to look it up when I recalled it today – yep, it’s heartbreakingly SF. Seriously wanted to curl in a ball in the corner and bawl like a baby. (Can you tell it was not an emotionally good day for me today? LOL, life.) First verse is ten years ago, the whole song is them overall… just, yeah. “I will think or dream of you and fail to understand / How a perfect love can be confounded out of hand” If somebody wants to make a video they are welcome…
Written in the Stars – Elton John/Leann Rimes – Aida
I am here to tell you we can never meet again
Simple really, isn’t it, a word or two and then
A lifetime of not knowing where or how or why or when
You think of me or speak of me or wonder what befell
The someone you once loved so long ago so wellNever wonder what I’ll feel as living shuffles by
You don’t have to ask me and I need not reply
Every moment of my life from now until I die
I will think or dream of you and fail to understand
How a perfect love can be confounded out of handIs it written in the stars
Are we paying for some crime
Is that all that we are good for
Just a stretch of mortal timeIs this God’s experiment
In which we have no say
In which we’re given paradise
But only for a dayNothing can be altered, there is nothing to decide
No escape, no change of heart, no anyplace to hide
You are all I’ll ever want, but this I am denied
Sometimes in my darkest thoughts, I wish I’d never learned
What it is to be in love and have that love returnedIs it written in the stars
Are we paying for some crime
Is that all that we are good for
Just a stretch of mortal timeIs this God’s experiment
In which we have no say
In which we’re given paradise
But only for a dayIs it written in the stars
Are we paying for some crime
Is that all that we are good for
Just a stretch of mortal timeIs this God’s experiment
In which we have no say
In which we have no say
In which we’re given paradise
Given paradise
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ParticipantSo, I watched this interview today. (At least I think it was this one!) It’s from last week at WonderCon, but I just now saw it. The transcript is not the same as the interview… there is a question about Michael Sochi, ten-ish minutes in, I think, and one of the interviewers thinks they’re asking about MRJ. Eddy trots out the same answer they’ve been giving, that Neal “will live on in our hearts and flashbacks,” except, instead of Neal, he says MRJ. I do not like that answer. It is the first time the answer has been given that I haven’t been able to call semantics, and it makes me really sad. π
I think I need to crawl into RG’s tent of doom for a while. Tent of optimism will stay here for those who wish to visit it, I just can’t be a resident at the moment. Sigh. π π π
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Participant*Rolls out sleeping bag and crawls back under table*
Here, I brought pretties! (Pretties being a term I use extremely loosely…)
Today was not good without this thread. I needed it, super bad. I do not like being locked out of the house and camping in the woods π
*pouts like a three year old*
But welcome home, all!!!!!!
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