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Favorite Moments:
Emma telling her parents how she feels (I hope that they really explore and resolve those relationships)
Regina and Snow fighting (THAT was a long time coming)
Henry with Peter Pan (and the reveal, although I saw it coming)
Charming’s “That’s my baby!”reaction to Emma’s speech on the beach
Loved the irony of GOAT’s sudden death
Least Favorite
Charming and Hook’s fight seemed a little contrived to me
Hated how we never understood Tamara’s motivations and I was kind of sad for Greg that his separation from his father (at Regina’s hand) put him on the path that lead to his demise.
[adrotate group="5"]I think that having the reformed villains (I’ll call them anti-heroes) will make season 3 more interesting. There could be conflict between them and the heroes over how to deal with Peter Pan and other potential baddies. The anti-heroes may be more willing to cut corners and accept more collateral damage than the heroes, which would allow for potential growth/development in all involved because ultimately, they will probably need to work together (which involves coming to some kind of consensus) in order to succeed.
Excuse my mini BF rant but: how can she put up a barrier and make Pinocchio a little boy again but she can’t take down a simple dark barrier spell or do anything else useful! ARG. She is either the most devious character on the show or really reallly really poorly written.
I’ve never considered the Blue Fairy a real character. Too me, she’s just a plot device. Her abilities (or lack thereof) are completely dependent on what best serves the plot.
Only one poster, that I’ve seen has said that Regina can’t be redeemed. In real life, she’d be in jail for the rest of her life; but this is a tv show. A well-written redemptive arc could certainly be believable for her. We see that from the beginning, Regina was a good (albeit somewhat weak) person, and that over the course of her life she has become something else in a large part due to the manipulations of Cora and Rumple. While they did manipulate her, Regina made her own decisions and she has the ultimate responsibility for her actions. We have also seen that the original Regina still exists within her. I never trusted her “reforming” earlier this season because it was pretty clear that her main motivation was external (Henry) and she had little internal (if any) motivation to do so. Also, there was an off-putting sense of entitlement as if she believed that everyone was supposed to automatically forgive her and forget all of the terrible things that she’d done to them. In Regina’s true redemptive arc, I hope to see some introspection and understanding of what she’s done and how far she’s turned fro the person that she used to and wanted to be. Then, we can see her actively making amends and slowly earning the trust of others around her (and not blaming others for their lack of trust in her).
Okay, so storybrooke doesn’t exist to us, but in all honesty, I could care less if Henry would have died from poisoning or whatever, because he really is a selfish kid, you all saw how quickly he turned on Emma, the kid has mommy issues, and don’t dare blame Regina, because she did love him, and yes, she put him in therapy, but had she not been one to adopt him, and Emma kept him, Emma would have put him in therapy.
I’m sorry to disagree, but Regina is the main cause of Henry’s mommy issues. I do not doubt at all that she loved him very much; however, she was very controlling and manipulative. The difference between Emma putting Henry in therapy and Regina doing it is that Emma would do it because she would really believe that Henry needed help. Regina did it because she knew that Henry was onto her and she wanted to discredit him and throw him off of her trail. Someone messing with your head like that through lies and manipulation really affects you. Henry has major issues with mother-figure lying to him because of Regina. That’s why when he found out that Emma had lied about his paternity, he said that she was just like Regina.
I won’t deny that Henry can be bratty and seems to think that he knows best, but given that he was able to figure out something so major that none of the adults around him were able to see, I understand why he believes that to be true. Henry has indeed seemed to be very manipulative with Regina, but given the nature of their relationship I understand why. What Henry needs right now is the sense of security that comes when a child knows that he can count on his parents etc. to take care of him (and in his case the rest of SB). That is really difficult for him, not only because of his trust issues with Regina, but also because of his black-and-white way of viewing the world, which doesn’t really allow for other viewpoints to be considered when he has determined a course of action (or right vs. wrong).
If Neal thinks Emma is over him, there is no need to dance around his relationship with Tamara when talking to her.
While I agree with the majority of your statement, I think that him not being sure about Emma’s feelings for him is only part of the reason for his downplaying of his relationship with Tamara. I also think that Neal’s own unresolved feelings for Emma played a role as well. However, I do believe that Emma’s vehement denial of having feelings for him has allowed Neal to be more open about his relationship with Tamara (for multiple reasons).
*And of course, he can be freer about Tamara now that Emma has met her.
I guess we disagree. 🙂 Cause to me, ripping out her heart is saying that she didn’t love him enough or at all because in the end he didn’t mean anything to her. And the way I saw it playing out, she was using him all along to get out of the contract, or at least get it to change.
I just lean toward the “She didn’t love him enough” side rather than “Didn’t love him at all.” With regards to the deal, I think that she was trying to cover all the bases depending on what she decided to do because she was conflicted (as in intriguied by running away with Rumplestiltskin but also trying to protect her interests if/when she didn’t).
In the end, whatever Cora felt for Rumple was totally eclipsed by her love of power. I think she was in lust with his power, what he could give her, darkness and the ability to make them all bend.
I completely agree with the first sentence. Cora’s thirst for power and high social standing were way more important to her than love. However, I see her ripping out her heart as saying that she did feel something deeper for Rumple because she wouldn’t have been able to enjoy her new life if she was always thinking about what could have been with Rumplestiltskin, but mileage varies on that part. The most important part is that she chose being without Rumple (and the benefits that it would reap over being with him), and that alone disqualifies her as his true love.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
But it wasn’t true love. Because if it had been, his curse would have broken. His true love is Belle, that’s why she can break his curse.
I agree. But, I believe that Cora did have real feelings for Rumplestiltskin beyond being drawn to his power. He’d already taught her how to use magic and she was set to marry the prince. The fact that she felt that she needed to rip out her own heart says to me that part of her really wanted to be with Rumplestiltskin. The fact that she chose her life with the prince over being with Rumplestiltskin does say that whatever feelings she did have, weren’t true love.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
But your point “as much as someone like Cora could love” does that mean that its not really love if it’s only the way Cora can love. She may have thought she was in love with Rumple, but I think it was his power she was in love with.
My edited statement answers this question.
