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What about Emma’s comments in the last episode about her past? Is she only talking about the kind of past we know from Tallahassee (when she was a thief and car thief?)… because… for her to be all “I was NOT mother material” as adamantly as she did to Snow and Charming at the end, doesn’t really line up either. Firstly, because she was totally set up when she went to prison, and she must know she didn’t really commit that horrible of a crime… and because… being a 17 year old and being a bit rebellious doesn’t make you a bad mother 11 years later.
I definitely like that they are contrasting it that way you said, Evil Queen… however, now they are talking about how much Emma has changed (and we know that she even changed between jail in “Tallahassee” and the pilot when she is doing good by tracking down criminals, but we also know, or it’s been majorly implied, that she was a “one night stand” kind of girl before SB and now she’s barely looked at another man since ‘he who shall not be named’ died, and even then, she was pushing him away).
So… big holes between “The Stranger” and “Tallahassee” flashbacks AND between “Tallahassee” and “Pilot” (once Emma was out of prison, not to mention the entire thing of how Gold got Henry).
When Regina made that comment (can’t remember the episode) about Emma moving around a lot (I think it was episode 2?) and Regina said “What was so interesting about Tallahassee?” – I am wondering if that was her implying that Emma went to Tallahassee after she got out of prison for two years to “wait for Neal”, but Neal never showed because of what August did? So that is when Emma’s heart truly broke and she became the Emma we saw in the pilot?
I think I care about the missing pieces between “Tallahassee” and “Pilot” much more than I care about the stuff from her childhood (because like I said, it’s been done, anyone who has ever watched TV can fill in what might have happened to her as a foster child in America being bounced from one home to the other).
[adrotate group="5"]I have a feeling the writers are setting up a big chase between Gold and Nealfire this seaon. Rumpel will leave Storybrooke to go looking for Baelfire, while at the same time, Neal leaves New York to visit Storybrooke. I think we’re going to have a few episodes with Gold and Neafirel constantly losing track of each other’s trail.
Could be. Assuming Emma and Henry go with Gold (I don't think Emma will leave Henry for that long with Regina on her rampage), that is keeping them from SB for a long time though. But I can picture that…
They just showed a longer/extended sneak peek on “live with Kelly and Michael” when Ginny was there… It was the same scene as they showed on Jimmy Fallon on Wednesday, but started earlier and went longer…
Looks like Snow and David are house-hunting… and might have their first real fight? I’m actually looking forward to it (because we know they’re not going to break up or anything), because it will actually make them seem like a real couple?
I guess they realized they need a room with a door? re: house hunting
I was also curious as to how all four of them fit into MM’s tiny little apartment, so… looks like they’ll be addressing it this week.@Schmacky wrote:
I’m a bit nervous that they won’t do anything with it. We’ve seen almost every facet of Regina’s backstory but barely know anything about Emma. They’ve told us about her past but haven’t really shown us. And I’m nervous they’re OK with that.
I guess maybe Emma’s back story is kind of described and kind of implied… and because we are all from the same world Emma grew up in, maybe they don’t think it is as necessary to clarify her story (the whole “woe is me, I grew up in the American foster system” story is done constantly in the media). I mean, the rest of the back stories have knights and queens and magic etc… Emma’s doesn’t have any of that. Likely the only part of her entire story that has any of that was in Tallahassee and that is only because August showed up and it was implied that there is something more to Neal than meets our initial eye.
That being said, I cannot imagine the series NEVER doing another back story for Emma (or how about for Henry?) – because that wouldn’t make sense either. Perhaps that stuff will set up something important later on.
One of the things that has be doubting the whole Nealfire thing is… Someone sent Neal a postcard… so why isn’t HE coming to SB? Why is Gold leaving to go find him?
I know Gold doesn’t KNOW someone sent Neal a postcard but… that part seems weird and like it might come into play. i.e. Emma refuses to go with Gold, or they don't make it out before Neal comes in or something?I want to know what happened to August!
Anyway….I agree with what some other people are saying. If Neal isn’t Bae, then the writers have managed to create a huge red herring. That being said, I am 99.9% sure that Neal IS Bae and am just waiting for the big reveal. 🙂
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was Bae at all… and I wouldn’t mind if he was… however, not all evidence points to Neal being Bae – that is just the interpretation of much evidence by fans. Lots of evidence points to Neal being from Wonderland as well (which could be so even if he is Bae).
I hope they reveal soon.
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@Schmacky wrote:
I would love to have an episode where it flashed back to a very young Emma.
But yeah, what Gypsy said – she got her last name from the first family she was with until she was 3. I want to see what these people are like. Because how can you take care of a little girl for years and then just give her back because you had one of your own? I mean… did they not connect with her at all? They were there probably for her first steps, first words… how do you just give a kid away like that?
What if the adoptive parents saw the baby somehow weilding magic, maybe in her sleep or something. That’d be funny!
Unfortunately, foster parents can be super unremoved from the babies they take, especially when they take babies. I know families who only took babies for “short term” placements (i.e. from birth until they could find long-term foster homes or adoptive parents) but sometimes they ended up getting the kids for a year or two while the courts fought it out… they just always have that idea that the kid could go back… Sometimes it is just like a rotary line of babies in and out of your house, so that honestly must be one of the hardest jobs… And if you’re being raised by people who have that kind of a wall up (afraid to get attached in case you get taken away), I don’t imagine you’re going to be any different (hence, Emma).
SENDING the kid back is totally weird though, especially when she was that little (I don’t imagine as a three year old, she would have had the time to be hugely problematic, because most often, the “unruly” kids are that way as a result of years in the system). So yeah, I would like to know that story.
I also know people who have several of their OWN children (like 5+) who have fought through everything necessary to adopt a kid they got as a newborn and had for years who otherwise would have been sent back into the system or to their birth parents (I mean, after you’ve lived with one family for the first five years of your life, it is hurting the kid to take them away from that family at that age) – so it seems so bizarre that kids would get “sent back” just because someone had their own kid.
Anyways, that was a bit off topic, but still in the spirit of this discussion. I’m curious to see what Eddie and Adam do with this… I feel like they are already pushing tons of buttons with the “adoption” issue (i.e. these forums and the chatroom have gone bananas with it after some episodes), so why not bring the foster care system into it as well?
I stand corrected… In a sneak peek for next week, this scene is on and she does have the big coat on… by the sounds of it, Hook tried to get at Belle and Rumpel saved her and possibly loaned her his coat?
It is the big Canadian, down filled, North Face or whatever jackets they wear in between takes. Because it is “so cold” in Vancouver… 😉 (anyone from Toronto will sense my sarcasm!)
I hope that whatever happens, it isn’t too “easy”. I don’t want “Emma has magic” to just be the solution to every problem (it was EPIC, and I mean epic, I STILL get the chills when I watch the scene “love is weakness!” “No, it’s strength”, so good, don’t get me wrong – that is my favourite scene of the entire show thus far, personally). So then Emma used magic this week to solve the big problem – fair enough. I just don’t want it to always be like “our life is in danger” or “something is hard”, “oh well, Emma has magic now” or “Cora is trying to kill us” and Emma just saves the day.
Like I get that she is the saviour, but that makes the entire series too easy and too predictable. So, I hope that they define some rules on Emma’s magic soon too.
I was always wondering if Emma’s heart could be taken in the future, or if that is one of her powers. I thought it would be interesting to find out that Emma’s heart wasn’t able to be taken by Cora in QoH because she sacrificed herself for Snow (kinda like… you know, Narnia… Harry Potter… the Bible…)… but then in the podcast Eddie and Adam said “that is one of Emma’s powers”, so that doesn’t sound like it is a one time thing.
Fair enough. Emma’s heart cannot be taken. By anyone? What about other means of killing someone?
I don’t want it to just be that Emma is off limits now to any big bad because she is the saviour and product of true love. You know?
Not sure if I articulated that well or not, but hopefully it’s clear.
Also – they never talk much about the Blue Fairy and whether her magic comes with a price? Curious about that as well… ?
