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The most random deleted scene ever. Rumple making a deal with Rip Van Winkle. Not sure which episode:
Rumple takes a dagger from Rip Van Winkle so whatever episode he gives that to Bae, I’m assuming that’s where it’s from.
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Charming and Emma must know about Milah being Rumpel’s wife. (And if Charming knows, Snow knows) When Hook shot Belle then got hit by a car he said, well shouted, about Rumpel’s “one true love gone in an instant, just like Milah when you took her from me” (something like that) Then Rumpel said “But you took her first” and that was when Emma and Charming were trying to stop Rumpel from killing Hook. I assume there are dots being connected and the moment in the cave was a confirmation of Hook being involved with Bae’s mother.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
@Rumplegoldfan said this in the Soul Mate v True Love thread, and I think it was so spot on, I’m copying and posting here! There’s an elephant in that thread no one’s mentioning – and thank god, because I don’t need Ship War III. But one thing I ultimately find interesting, at least in our thread, is that many of us seem less bothered by the semantics. Maybe because our ship is so strong? Look, I’m not about to say that Neal and Emma weren’t True Love. They were. So were Hook and Milah. And I’m not saying that Emma & Hook’s love is better/worse than their past relationships. Because you can’t compare apples to oranges. It’s a completely different scenario; this Emma and this Hook are not the Emma and Hook that loved Neal and Milah. That’s why I find it amusing when people say Neal ‘had to die because of CS’. No, he didn’t. I think a great many CSers would say Neal didn’t have to die because we weren’t the least bit threatened by the character or the relationships he had with Emma and Hook. So, Soul Mates or not, endgame or not, I don’t really care what label people want to slap on my ship – be it positive or negative. Because I’m loving the story that’s being told in the present.
Yes, yes yes. I couldn’t agree more. And I also agree with rumplegoldfan. Loves change, people change, it doesn’t make one better than the other.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
Interesting article…it did help me resolve some of my issues with Milah. I don’t know why, I just can’t take to her like I can with other characters – even ones you’re not supposed to like. I accept Hook and Milah had True Love because that’s what the story says, but for some reason I don’t find it as believable as others – and I’m not necessarily looking at their relationship through CS glasses because although Emma & Hook are amazing, I can see the obvious chemistry Hook has with other characters – TinkerHook is my favorite ‘crackship’ afterall! (That scene in NL? Holy cow!)
I think it’s hard to see Milah and Killian as TL, b/c we never actually see them together apart from those couple scenes – in the pub and then with the confrontation with Dark One. We didn’t see them together on adventures, we didn’t see how Killian cared for her and vice versa just in general life – we can assume with such a passionate need for revenge Hook had a deep deep love for her. But we only have Hook’s word for it. He didn’t interact with Milah the way he did with Tink or Emma, and even Belle. He got really flirty and up close and personal with those women (even a flirty moment with Cora) where we didn’t see him do that with Milah. But to be honest given a chance Hook would have chemistry with a wooden plank.
One thing that always intrigues me about Milah and Killian (and I’m sure this has been pointed out before) is that Milah always seemed quite a bit older than Killian. And the age gap may have been unintentional on the writers’ behalf, but you don’t really see that kind of dynamic between love interests on TV – the older woman in love with the younger man. Unless it’s some sort of flirty toy-boy scenario, but a serious relationship seems rare to me. So it wasn’t some youthful thing that caught the dashing pirate. A pirate who could have had his pick of anyone. It was the the older, probably wiser, life experienced woman he fell in love with. I find that quite refreshing.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
I’m going to rain on everyone’s parade and say their ‘date’ will be a drink at Granny’s. I’m not sure they’ll go in for anything more fancy. I hope I’m wrong 🙂 Actually are there any other restaurants in SB aside from Granny’s?
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
True Love definitely isn’t just romantic love, as both SB curses were broken by the True Love Kiss of a mother for her son. However I would say that Snow and Charming are perhaps the epitome of True Love and that’s why their love is so strong (and they do share a heart now). Rumpel said he didn’t realise the power of Twoo Wuv until Milah came back to save Killian. So there must be something in True Love that sets it apart from Soul Mates. It has to be reciprocated equally on both sides maybe, so that would rule out any infatuations you perceive as True Love if the other person/animal/inanimate object doesn’t return your love. Perhaps Soul Mates is the person who you are destined to be with (in conjunction with True Love??). Regina saw Robin’s tattoo pretty early on (before Marian was about?) she ran away and didn’t act on it. However all events in her life still lead her to Robin. With that reasoning Snowing would also be Soul Mates as even when Hook & Emma messed up their meeting, it really didn’t take much to get their story back on track because they were always meant to be together. With that I think I’ve just confused myself. So I’ll just stick to using them as interchangeable terms. 😉
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
I agree with all of that. It’s really disturbing to me when I read comments about that opening scene in 3A is meant to be seen as something romantic because it’s not.
Really? People think that’s romantic? How? That makes no sense. Although you’d think I’d be used to some areas of the fandom making no sense.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
The Dullard or the Dashing Rapscallion?? There is NO comparison necessary @ellemo (neener-neener grin). (Bo Peep dances around the message board twirling her staff like a majorette and doing a rapscallion worshipping jig) He had us , me HEARTies (and Emma) at “Yo Ho”
True true, but some people need to be shown what an absolute box of hair He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named actually is. 😉
LOL leave enough rum for us! 😛
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
I’ve always loved those comparisons between Neal and Hook. I know who I’d choose 🙂
And no, no annoying autoplay ads for me.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
Saw this post about the latest Hook possibly getting his hand back that I think bears noting.
And I agree with all of it because we weren’t introduced to Hook from the start of the Crocodile. He became that persona at the end. He is Killian Jones at heart. With or without the hook, he is Killian Jones. Hook is a persona.
Yeah, I totally agree. I also come from the view point that a fake limb or in this case hook, dont make the person a person
I agree on both accounts. But he’s Captain Hook! He can’t be Captain Hook without the hook! Otherwise he’s just another hot pirate (which I’m not complaining about) but “Killian Jones” isn’t the famous fictional character, “Captain Hook” is the famous character and why put in all that effort to get Capt Hook if you’re just going to get rid of the Hook part?
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
