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@sjm wrote:
Elysabeth1 After reading your thoughts, I wasn’t sure you are actually calling anything or just “thinking out loud.” Are you wanting to call the Queen of Hearts is Regina’s sister? That the curse is not completely broken? That in the end Rumpel will have to choose between Bae and his power? That the faeries will not regain their magic when magic comes to SB? Let me know. 🙂
Lol. Sorry about that. First time user really; first time “calling it”. Yes I was pretty much thinking out loud, but you hit my predictions for the most part.
1. The QoH will somehow be related to Regina; I vote she will be her older sister and that Cora made an exchange with Rumpel
2. The curse is not completely broken; they will still have to fight the Epic Battle to return completely to FTL
3. Rumpel will find Bae and have to chose once again between his son and his power (not quite sure that will happen in season 2, but it will eventually)
4. We will learn what deal that Rumpel and Regina made that started this whole mess
5. Regina killed her mother and stole her power
Thats it for now. Lol. Too much floating through my head. 😀
[adrotate group="5"]All I have been able to think about lately is what on earth happened between Regina and Rumpelstiltskin. Just a theory…
I am wondering if Regina came to Rumpel to strike up a deal (how to get her mother out of the picture and to take her powers in the process?). With Rumpel being able to see into the future, he accepted her “deal” knowing that she would later ask him to create the curse (in which he made his own loopholes) which would lead him to the other world to find Bae. I’m sure somewhere in there she ‘voided’ her deal (thinking she was more powerful than Rumpel), which she seems to be good at, and that made Rumpel angry. I think it was all a plot from the beginning to somehow find Bae, keep his stature, and gain his powers back. Obviously he hid the ‘True Love’ with the full intention of bringing his power back when Emma was ready to believe; true love reinforced by true love. Now with magic in our world, finding Bae is much more possible. Rumpel has had the upper hand it seems to me the entire time. In the end he’ll have to choose between his powers and Bae again. I <3 it!
I believe the curse was only partially lifted. I think that they will all still be in SB, but remembering both worlds. It will be about Emma and how she rekindles a different kind of relationship with her parents, her struggling with being a new child and a new parent, and whatever Regina is planning now with all her regained powers. Rumpel will be striking up new deals to find Bae, who I believe will be introduced, and they will spend their time trying to continue to fight off Regina while trying to figure out how to fully lift the curse so they can return to FTL. Somehow using Emma will come into play; whether she uses her powers in combination with his to find Bae…not sure on that yet. But you KNOW that favor is coming…and it’ll be goooood.
Curious about August though. I liked the guy. Will he be in SB as Pinocchio? Or with magic will he turn back into a ‘real boy’? (Or man) Lol!
I do like the theory about the faeries not regaining power. Considering Rumpel is responsible, I doubt he would make it easy for the Blue Fairy to regain her powers since he feels she is responsible for Bae’s disappearance. Possibly we will see a lot of struggle with the characters trying to accept both realities.
I also think that the Queen of Hearts is Reginas older sibling. There is more to that story; Cora was the Millers daughter…deal for power…the similarities….I’d love to see that play out. 😀
I’m thinking Cora made a deal with Rumpel for power in exchange for her firstborn. Somehow that child ended up being the QoH in Wonderland. Reginas older sister. That’d be awesome. Explain the similarities and obvious tension/bitterness.
All I have been able to think about lately is what on earth happened between Regina and Rumpelstiltskin. Just a theory…
I am wondering if Regina came to Rumpel to strike up a deal (how to get her mother out of the picture and to take her powers in the process?). With Rumpel being able to see into the future, he accepted her “deal” knowing that she would later ask him to create the curse (in which he made his own loopholes) which would lead him to the other world to find Bae. I’m sure somewhere in there she ‘voided’ her deal (thinking she was more powerful than Rumpel), which she seems to be good at, and that made Rumpel angry. I think it was all a plot from the beginning to somehow find Bae, keep his stature, and gain his powers back. Obviously he hid the ‘True Love’ with the full intention of bringing his power back when Emma was ready to believe; true love reinforced by true love. Now with magic in our world, finding Bae is much more possible. Rumpel has had the upper hand it seems to me the entire time. In the end he’ll have to choose between his powers and Bae again. I <3 it!
I believe the curse was only partially lifted. I think that they will all still be in SB, but remembering both worlds. It will be about Emma and how she rekindles a different kind of relationship with her parents, her struggling with being a new child and a new parent, and whatever Regina is planning now with all her regained powers. Rumpel will be striking up new deals to find Bae, who I believe will be introduced, and they will spend their time trying to continue to fight off Regina while trying to figure out how to fully lift the curse so they can return to FTL. Somehow using Emma will come into play; whether she uses her powers in combination with his to find Bae…not sure on that yet. But you KNOW that favor is coming…and it’ll be goooood.
Curious about August though. I liked the guy. Will he be in SB as Pinocchio? Or with magic will he turn back into a ‘real boy’? (Or man) Lol!
I do like the theory about the faeries not regaining power. Considering Rumpel is responsible, I doubt he would make it easy for the Blue Fairy to regain her powers since he feels she is responsible for Bae’s disappearance. Possibly we will see a lot of struggle with the characters trying to accept both realities.
@Josephine wrote:
I’ve been thinking about Emma, Henry, true love, the Charmings, and Henry’s father and it kept circling in my head. The theme of the show is that true love is the most powerful magic in the world. It got me thinking in OUaT that true love begets true love. I’ll explain…
Snow’s father loved her mother deeply. We’ve even seen him talk about it in front of Regina. So Snow is a product of true love. Then there is Charming. His mother tells of how she dearly loved his father and that true love will follow the ring she gave him, just like it did for her. Next in line is Emma, who we know is the product of Snow’s and Charming’s love for each other, and hence why she’s the savior curtesy of Rumple’s curse.
So that leaves Henry. The last in a long line of true love. We know that Emma truly loves Henry, but unlike the others, he’s not the product of true love. He’s the result of some messed up, accidental, dysfunctional relationship. She was a teenager, he wasn’t told she was pregnant, then she got arrested. Not the outcome of true love. So what’s different with Henry? Why did the cycle stop with his conception?
Or will his parents ultimately be each other’s romantic true loves. The show preaches it and shoves it down our throats, so why for the main character does she not have what everyone around her, even Rumple, has? Do you think they’ll eventually bring back Henry’s father, whoever he is, and redeem him in her eyes?
I <3 it. You are so right. It doesn't fit. They all have the same true love surroundings. We already know that Emmas response to intimacy and responsibility is to run. Maybe she was truly in love with him, and that's what scared her. Made her run. Somehow it went wrong (jail). I'm sure there are tons of us who are guilty of running from love out of fear of being hurt. Lol. That would explain her over-thought answer to Henry, yet we know how she really feels. Somewhere down the line they will reunite, and suddenly she'll have the ultimate true love; the FULL loving wonderful family she's never had nor could have ever imagined. <3
@Elysabeth1 wrote:
@KalliopeKisees wrote:
After watching last night’s episode “The Stable Boy,” I am more convinced than ever that Regina has an older sibling. We now know (for sure) that Cora is the Miller’s daughter. She makes quite a few references about sacrifices for power in Stable Boy. I DO NOT feel she was able to keep her first born from Rumple (One of the many sacrifices she needed to make). I also feel she too had to sacrifice her true love, hence her diatribe about love being an illusion. Is the QOH Regina’s sister, can’t say for sure. But she is the Queen of HEARTS and we have now seen that pulling out and keeping hearts is a family trait.
I am really liking this theory. If Cora was the millers daughter, she made the deal with Rumpel for her first born. Her powers to me seem very similar to Rumpels. As far as collecting the first born, I can see Rumpel winning that round, or them making a good deal about where the first born would go. (Same idea as the twins and placing one with the King) What if Regina found out her mothers secret? Used Jefferson previously to get into Wonderland and meet her ‘sister’, in the hopes of angering the QoH into helping with revenge against Cora (this all after Stable Boy obviously). It could have backfired with the QoH instead of joining Regina, chose to take out her anger on both of them and take away father Henry from both Regina AND Cora. Later on once Regina got her mother out of the picture and gained enough leverage, she traveled back to Wonderland with Jefferson to retrieve her father. They are all in the same family somehow. Too many resemblances. I can see Regina always feeling like the unwanted child, the one who got the short end of the stick. If she would have been the first born (and her mother made the same deal) SHE would have been QoH. Its all about bitterness with the Queen. She feels wronged by more than just losing Daniel. She feels wronged somehow with her entire existence.
@KalliopeKisees wrote:
After watching last night’s episode “The Stable Boy,” I am more convinced than ever that Regina has an older sibling. We now know (for sure) that Cora is the Miller’s daughter. She makes quite a few references about sacrifices for power in Stable Boy. I DO NOT feel she was able to keep her first born from Rumple (One of the many sacrifices she needed to make). I also feel she too had to sacrifice her true love, hence her diatribe about love being an illusion. Is the QOH Regina’s sister, can’t say for sure. But she is the Queen of HEARTS and we have now seen that pulling out and keeping hearts is a family trait.
I am really liking this theory. If Cora was the millers daughter, she made the deal with Rumpel for her first born. Her powers to me seem very similar to Rumpels. As far as collecting the first born, I can see Rumpel winning that round, or them making a good deal about where the first born would go. (Same idea as the twins and placing one with the King) What if Regina found out her mothers secret? Used Jefferson previously to get into Wonderland and meet her ‘sister’, in the hopes of angering the QoH into helping with revenge against Cora (this all after Stable Boy obviously). It could have backfired with the QoH instead of joining Regina, chose to take out her anger on both of them and take away father Henry from both Regina AND Cora. Later on once Regina got her mother out of the picture and gained enough leverage, she traveled back to Wonderland with Jefferson to retrieve her father. They are all in the same family somehow. Too many resemblances. I can see Regina always feeling like the unwanted child, the one who got the short end of the stick. If she would have been the first born (and her mother made the same deal) SHE would have been QoH. Its all about bitterness with the Queen. She feels wronged by more than just losing Daniel. She feels wronged somehow with her entire existence.
All I have been able to think about lately is what on earth happened between Regina and Rumpelstiltskin. Just a theory…
I am wondering if Regina came to Rumpel to strike up a deal on how to get her mother out of the picture and to take her powers in the process. With Rumpel being able to see into the future, he accepted her “deal” knowing that she would later ask him to create the curse (in which he made his own loopholes) which would lead him to the other world to find Bae. I’m sure somewhere in there she ‘voided’ her deal (thinking she was more powerful than Rumpel), which she seems to be good at, and that made Rumpel angry. I think it was all a plot from the beginning to somehow find Bae, keep his stature, and gain his powers back. Obviously he hid the ‘True Love’ with the full intention of bringing his power back when Emma was ready to believe. Now with magic in our world, finding Bae is much more possible. Rumpel has had the upper hand it seems to me the entire time. In the end he’ll have to choose between his powers and Bae again. I <3 it! :lol: :D
I believe the curse was only partially lifted. I think that they will all still be in SB, but remembering both worlds. It will be about Emma and how she rekindles a different kind of relationship with her parents, her struggling with being a new child and a new parent, and whatever Regina is planning now with all her regained powers. Rumpel will be striking up new deals to find Bae, and they will spend their time trying to continue to fight off Regina while trying to figure out how to fully lift the curse so they can return to FTL.
Curious about August though. I liked the guy. Will he be in SB as Pinocchio? Or with magic will he turn back into a ‘real boy’? (Or man) Lol! 😆
I do like the theory about the faeries not regaining power. Considering Rumpel is responsible, I doubt he would make it easy for the Blue Fairy to regain her powers since he feels she is responsible for Bae’s disappearance.
All I have been able to think about lately is what on earth happened between Regina and Rumpelstiltskin. Just a theory…
I am wondering if Regina came to Rumpel to strike up a deal on how to get her mother out of the picture and to take her powers in the process. With Rumpel being able to see into the future, he accepted her “deal” knowing that she would later ask him to create the curse (in which he made his own loopholes) which would lead him to the other world to find Bae. I’m sure somewhere in there she ‘voided’ her deal (thinking she was more powerful than Rumpel), which she seems to be good at, and that made Rumpel angry. I think it was all a plot from the beginning to somehow find Bae, keep his stature, and gain his powers back. Obviously he hid the ‘True Love’ with the full intention of bringing his power back when Emma was ready to believe. Now with magic in our world, finding Bae is much more possible. Rumpel has had the upper hand it seems to me the entire time. In the end he’ll have to choose between his powers and Bae again. I <3 it!
