[emmajones]

@emmajones LOL don’t worry I spaz a lot too and I will keep posting wonderful metas, don’t you worry With regards to the home thing, I consistently see SF shippers say that Neal is Emma’s home. That doesn’t make ANY sense to me in light of this line:

I was trying to get you home.

Neal doesn’t consider Emma’s home to be with him. Whereas Snowing consider each other their “home”. Just some food for thought (reason #eleventybillion why SF aren’t true love)

 

And I LOVE Hook’s line when he said ” Everything we need is in front of us” .. smart writing there! It may seem to be about the treasure at first but it’s a foreshadow that everything that Emma and Hook need are EACH OTHER..

 

awasdadqweqeedfddfdffffffffaasasdff ( SPAZZING)

 

Is it March already?

[emmajones]

Thanks @CaptaineAla for that wonderful read (AGAIN):D

When Pan told Hook the secret about Neal, he made Hook the apex…the active player. He came clean about Neal being alive, he lead them to the echo caves, he put his own heart on the line knowing it would lead the woman he loves into the arms of the man who is also vying for her heart.

=>my heart is melting for you now, Hook. Oh God give me a man who would do this for me LOL

 

Hook is the one who got the romantic goodbye. In an episode as important as the mid season finale, it was important that they set things up for the rest of the season. Hook will be the one to restore her memories and Hook will be the one bringing her home. 

=> Emma always wanted a HOME. Neal wasn’t able to give her a home in Tallahassee. Hook will bring her home to EF/SB or wherever her family is! It’s HOOK! HOOOOOK!

asdadrfedasdasaaaasddddfff ( spazzing)

[emmajones]

This is what I have in mind but just can’t put into words:

http://mufflednoise.tumblr.com/post/66657535469/my-headcanon-is-that-she-realized-how-much-hook

My headcanon is that she realized how much Hook really meant to her. It surprised her just how much she cared that his life was in danger, and how much she cared that now, he was safe. And dealing with her disbelief, maybe, because she knew that at that moment, she chose him.

[emmajones]

The “triangle” summed up in one PERFECT post from thepixiewoods:

True Love storytelling and this lopsided blob of a love triangle After reading Hilary’s post today (and along with a few other posts I responded to), I got thinking about the storytelling of this love blob ”triangle.”
There’s an element of catharsis in the endings of stories, I think. The reader obviously has expectations about what will happen based on the clues they find throughout. When a reader’s expectations are met, they can experience that catharsis at the end – an odd feeling of satisfaction the readers has, that, after all that tension, things have ended up how they should be. I’ll grant you, not all readers feel this way at the end of a story because every reader has different desires and expectations, but because of the nature of fairy tales and the fact that happy endings are such an important element of this show, I’d venture a guess that for the ending, they’re going to go for making the viewer feel like everything has ended up how it is supposed to. That being said, I thought about the way this “triangle” story has been told in terms of the males involved and what we know about the nature of true love in the OUAT universe. As viewers, we want the heroine, Emma, to end up with the right person (her true love) and to be happy. Consider what we know about true love. The three biggest lessons we’ve had so far are:
1.that it doesn’t move on
2.it always finds one another
3.and when it is separated, both lives are ruined. When it comes to the story telling payoff with Emma’s romance, her true love needs to fit (at minimum) these three characteristics, or (many) viewers can’t get on board with it and feel that she ended up with the right person. This is a show that prominently features the idea of happy endings. Emma is going to end up with her true love, with the right person. For it to be the right person, it needs to be her true love, who needs to meet (like I said, at minimum) those three requirements. Now for Hook, we’re missing part of the story. We don’t know the details of his year apart from Emma. However, before she leaves he tells her he will think about her every day, so I think it’s pretty safe to say the separation negatively affected his life in a profound way if he was thinking of the woman he loved every day and being told that he truly couldn’t ever see her again (but not believing it, no – you’ll see). I think Hook meets true love requirement three, and I predict we’ll get to see a lot more of how much his life actually was ruined when 3B starts. Obviously, Hook also meets true love requirements one and two. When he is separated from her (and not by his choice, mind you), he doesn’t move on, or he wouldn’t be at her door a year later, trying to plant a TLK on her. If he had moved on, he wouldn’t have even tried a TLK because he would have known it wouldn’t work. Further, he finds her in a world he doesn’t know and minimally understands. Like, how the eff did he do that without a car, or knowing anything about trains, or addresses, or anything modern at all? I’m interested to find out. But in the biggest city on Earth, he finds her. Let’s be honest, here: Hook thinks Emma is IT for him. He can’t be happy with anyone else now that he knows what it’s like to even just have Emma IN HIS LIFE, not even being with her. It’s just the truth. I don’t think Neal fits any of the three true love requirements. For one, when he is separated from her, his life isn’t ruined. He doesn’t go to jail and he faces no repercussions of any kind. He gets out of the country, is eventually able to come back (since Rumple uses magic to figure out that his son is in New York, we know he comes back to the US), and has a fiancée he’s about to marry. Seems like he’s doing pretty peachy to me. After Neal is separated from Emma (by his choice, in contrast to Hook, who has no choice thanks to Pan, that little *poop*), he acts like he wants to find her after she has “done her job,” and even tells August to contact him once that has happened. August does, and there’s Neal’s chance to go find Emma. He doesn’t go. So he doesn’t fit requirement number two either. And finally, given that he had a fiancée and was prepared to marry her, clearly he had moved on, and can be happy with someone other than Emma. (Brief aside to address comments about Milah that will undoubtedly come: listen, you can’t count Milah as moving on from Emma. Hook hadn’t met Emma yet. Emma hadn’t been born. SNOW, Emma’s MOTHER, hadn’t been born. When Neal moves on, though, he has already been with Emma, whereas anytime after Hook meets Emma, he doesn’t move on.) So. Which guy, in terms of storytelling, will it be satisfying for the heroine to end up with? The guy who can’t be happy with anyone but her, or the guy who can? The guy who doesn’t meet ANY of the requirements of true love, or the guy who meets all of them? I don’t think this is a hard question to answer.

 

A good read. Thanks for posting this @CaptainEala. The one thing that really really raises red flag to me about Neal is that, he was able to move on and ready to marry Tamara. He still chose Tamara even if he saw Emma again and knowing they have a son together. He only “moved on” when Tamara tried to kill him. Moving on isn’t a switch you can easily turn on or off. Look at Hook, took him 300 years to move on from Milah. Granted, he may have truly loved Milah but isn’t his true love ( speculations on that is still on going I think) but it took him 300 years.

[emmajones]

   

   

 

I don’t get why they think Hook isn’t good for Emma *shrugs*.

[emmajones]

*sigh* Hello all. I’m sorry that chat is sometimes not a very friendly place for CSers. I know that this site is SF heavy in chat. But I’m not a miracle worker. I can’t be here 24/7 to keep everything down. I try my hardest to keep it friendly and non shipping. I want us to be able to talk and not have it go stupid. I try guys, I try. And just wanna point out, very few of us believe the WW theory about Hook being a double agent. I don’t believe it myself. At all. And most of my shipmates don’t either. Please remember to be respectful of people here. Even if this is your thread, we don’t tolerate any mild “bashing” of any kind toward people, users and theories. I say the same thing to the SFers too. I’ve called them out in chat too, just to be clear. Everyone is entitled to their theories and speculation, yes? also, please remember to spoil out stuff. I’ve been absent a lot lately and haven’t been watching as much as I should but if you could work with me on this please and thank you. Carry on.

 

Thanks RG!

[emmajones]

WR is good to talk to, even if she ships SF. Others are meh.. I wish I can discuss with you guys there why I think Cs is endgame and etc etc.. but a lot are very much defensive on SF :(. You really can’t discuss there in a civil manner if there are tons of SFs there

[emmajones]

Yeah and the cray cray theories going on to try to undermine Hook’s love for Emma. Like Hook being sent by the witch? I mean really. No wonder you guys don’t go in the chat it’s a joke.

 

I really don’t see a logic in that.. I think it’s grasping straws just for them to undermine Hook’s love for Emma and justify their SF heart. It doesn’t make any sense. I do see their point that Hook is a double agent and etc but It really wont make sense in this universe :/

[emmajones]

I have to give you shippers credit I don’t see you in chat very often and the few times I did you never complained about Neal or did I miss something hmmmm.

 

I like Neal as Neal. I really do hope he finds his happy ending but I don’t want it to be Emma. Emma deserves an EPIC love story. No offense to Neal, he loves her but doesn’t LOVE her like Hook does. 🙂

[emmajones]

carrielynne:

You know this is honestly one of my favorite things. They did these little gestures in the same episode. I mean, that’s how carefully they put these scenes together. In the same episode where in a matter of hours of knowing her, he’s able to recite her entire backstory, emotional issues and all without her saying anything. In the same episode where she calls him out on his past by just seeing his tattoo and knowing he has a vendetta against Rumple. In the same episode where the writers themselves said she didn’t like where this was going, she was falling in step with this guy way too easily and the last time she felt like that, she got burned. Tell me again how these two haven’t been set up as soulmates since their very first scenes together. You can’t write a well thought out and brilliantly crafted story by pandering to fan service. Hook and Emma have BEEN in the story for a season and a half now and they’ve been having these canon romantic moments since their very first adventure. Why would they take such care to add such small tiny details such as the ones above, if they only planned on keeping Hook around for a short time or if this was some relationship they didn’t plan on developing from the moment they wrote Hook into the show. I know these gestures seem small but, to me they’re a really huge deal b/c they purposely wrote it this way. And that is just a really encouraging thought.

 

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