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I think I remember someone spoiling that one death will be a fake and will be reversed and the other death will be permanent.
Also I remember alot of AandE replying to #hope for swanfire and that there can be hope.
Also I remember the poster believe in second chances I doubt thesecond chance is at death. Also. No matter what the actors want, no good, self respecting story can EVER kill a charachter with a name like Baelfire.Rumple’s death could be the one that was reversed. Do you remember where you saw them saying have hope for swanfire and when was that? Not that it matters really. I’m blindly hopeful and will remain so until I hear MRJ say he’s in fact not coming back; until A&E say Neal AND Baelfire are really dead; until his cast mates recognize MRJ’s exit. Just too much not being clearly stated at the moment.
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Would they have introduced this at all if Ginny hadn’t been pregnant in real life?
Allegedly they had the baby plot planned out before they even knew Ginny was pregnant, and it was just a happy coincidence. Allegedly. I don’t really have any clear ideas about what exactly she wants the baby for. Kinda like the idea that she needs it as a vessel for the courage, brain and heart, though that’s a bit creepy. Have also wondered if maybe she just wants a baby to raise as her own. And I’m also wondering, if now that the Snowflake will be heavily guarded, perhaps Zelena will just take the Philora baby instead, because it’s gotta be due round about now if it hasn’t arrived already. We know we’re getting Philora again, in 319, I think? The pics we have are of them in FTL, dunno if they’re also in SB this time around, but it’d make sense if they were.
Ugh! Getting too complicated. I wish they’d slow down and give these characters time to breathe, grieve, love and have some actual time together without the threat of death, curse, memory loss looming.
There’s a whole thread https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/zelena-wants-to-baelfire-regina/ i probably should have have put that in spoiler black out but idk how. Sorry
It’s not a spoiler so you’re okay
Allegedly they had the baby plot planned out before they even knew Ginny was pregnant, and it was just a happy coincidence. Allegedly.
Yeah I don’t actually buy that
What does baelfiring of time mean? Should I have hope?
and always have hope!
It’s an interesting theory and very interesting. But…#nohope. I have none.
i have enough hope (misguided or otherwise) for both of us!
There’s a whole thread https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/zelena-wants-to-baelfire-regina/
i probably should have have put that in spoiler black out but idk how. Sorry
I don’t know if this has been discussed anywhere else but I’m curious what the thoughts are specifically regarding Snow and Charming’s baby. Are they really gonna introduce a baby into the storyline? Would they have introduced this at all if Ginny hadn’t been pregnant in real life?
Specifically regarding the possible “balefiring of time” theory which seems quite possible at this point; will this undo the pregnancy? Will snow and charming have the memory of her being pregnant and be heart broken if they go back in time and she does not get pregnant? Or does the WW want the baby and that’s where the storyline is headed? Are they going to lose ANOTHER baby right after birth?
I was hoping the “balefiring of time” was to bring Neal back but maybe for storyline purposes it’s more to undo the pregnancy so they (the writers) don’t have to deal with a baby storyline?
Maybe be it can do both?
Soooo, I started writing out the details of my end of season headcanon…and it sorta became a four page fanfic thing? I’m not a “writer” by any means, it’s rather pedestrian in style, but yeah, anyway, at least now if it doesn’t happen on the show, it still totally happened because I wrote it.
(Never attached a file to a post before, so let’s see if this works.) OMG!! Loved it! You should write for this show!
Yeah that was strange for her to just do it. But I swear to God if I EVER see another CSer try to proclaim that Neal has no faith in Emma’s superpowers…
I stay away from the “shipping politics” as much as I can. I stay here in the comfort of my ship where it’s warm and cozy, if not a little depressing lately. However I did go over and read a little of the CS thread and it made me realize my hope that Neal is still alive or that his death can somehow be reversed (love your head cannon btw) is no more ridiculous that CSers thinking Emma is gonna declare her love for Hook in the next episode. It made me laugh and if they can have such high hopes, so can we!
heart breaking
Just a little something that’s been in my head since “Quiet Minds”. And don’t ask me to make sense of it or give any major details because I won’t have it lol.
For me and I know a lot of other people that episode was so OOC for Emma (and everyone else but that’s another story). Since when does Emma have the confidence in her own magical abilities to separate two souls/beings whatever it was?! But she was like “yeah, okay I got this”. Um no! I think Rumple just used her somehow, like a magical tool to separate himself from Neal. Rumple is the dark one. I don’t believe for a second that he couldn’t have wrangled the two minds long enough to come up with some type of plan. Not saying it was easy for him and that’s why he needed to separate from Neal but in my head canon, Rumple and Neal worked out a way (very complicated, very rumple-esc) to defeat Zelena and Neal’s “death” was just part of the plan. And I kept watching the part when Rumple is holding Neal’s hand right before he dies and I just keep thinking he pricked him with a sleeping curse. I can’t get it out of my head. Maybe Rumple felt Emma needed to lose Neal to find the proper motivation for her to defeat Zelena. She is the savior after all.
What’s the plan? Idk
Where’d he get the sleeping potion? Idk
Like I said just something that’s been in my head since I saw the episode.
I think the only way to avoid neal death, was destroy Pan in NVL,with no pan in sb, means no go back to EF, means no rumple sacrifice, means emma would meet neal at grannys,and other things
I think the only way to avoid Neal’s death was not to write it in the first place
Yeah I go back and forth all day: hope or no hope? Every interview I read from A and E seems to say that he won’t be coming back. But then Zelena’s plan….*sigh* I’ll continue to watch until the end of the season. I’ll be done after that if he doesn’t come back. I’ll check out the series on netflix once it’s ended just to have closure. Considering how much it sucks and hurts that they killed him off, and in such an awful OOC for EVERY character horribly written episode, it cannot hurt anymore for me to have a little hope for the next month or so. As a fan I’m already disillusioned and dissapointed so all I really have left is hope.
