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@RumplesGirl wrote:
@charming wrote:
Belle asked why he needed magic and Rumple said power.
It doesn’t mean that’s a bad thing. His statement that “magic is power” is true. We’ve seen that with Regina and with the Blue Fairy, who is supposed to the oldest power and the “good” power. The question is what does he plan to do with that power. Does he use it to find Bae (since that was the whole reason for the Dark Curse) or does he use like Regina did and attempt to control those without power/less power than he.
I’m curious to learn how the other fairytale creatures deal with power and magic. So far, we’ve only seen Regina and Rumpel’s view of magic. We’ve been led to believe that power and magic lead to evil deeds. But there are other fairytale creatures that possess magic and power who are actually good. So, I’d like to hear what they’d have to say about magic and the price they had to pay, if any at all.
[adrotate group="5"]@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
@darcyfarrow wrote:
@Josephine wrote:
Come on, it has to be Belle. The ship that launched a thousand fanfics. Her one episode alone changed the way everyone viewed Rumple/Mr. Gold. Just think what her five minutes on screen in the finale and a summer of speculation will do. 😆
Yeah, but Bae is theraison d’etre for everything Rumple does, so how can we choose? Belle’s the heart; Bae’s the soul; I can’t select just one, so I’m double dipping. BTW, did you ever notice how the names Belle and Baelfire kind of sound alike?
I’ve also noticed the similarities between Belle and Bae. And not just their names either. They both loved Rumpel. They both tried to save him from the curse of the Dark One. Rumpel pushed them both away out of either fear or anger. And their “losses” have haunted him ever since. And on top of that, they both brown hair. They were his “prices” for using so much magic.
I think Rumpel’s love for Belle is strongly rooted in the fact that he probably viewed her as an older, female version of Bae. They both had the same goals and desires, and they were both incredibly brave given their situations. Couple that with their similar physical appearance and you’ll see a pattern. Rumpel didn’t listen to Bae and he ended up losing him the process. Skip ahead a few hundred eyars, and he makes the same mistake again with Belle. Belle basically echoed everything Bae was trying to tell him.
You’re absolutely right. Belle was Baelfire Part 2. She attempted everything Baelfire tried to accomplish. Their stories have so many parallels. There’s no way their similarities went unnoticed by Rumpel.
I also agree with the “Belle is the heart” and “Baelfire is the soul” analogy. It perfectly discribes how Rumpel feels about them.
@darcyfarrow wrote:
So now that magic has come to our world, it’s fair to speculate that SB residents will be free to leave town, and thus Gold can make the trip he talked about– most likely, to search for Bae. And with the return of magic, fans are speculating whether everyone will revert to their FTL form.
So, if Rumple, in all his glittering, black-nailed, twisted-teeth glory came to your town, how might the locals greet him?
In Houston: “You the new rodeo clown?”
In Austin: “So which frat are you pledging?” (And the next day, 20% of the UT student body will show up for class in glitter (but not black nails, ’cause that goth look is postmodern and we’re ubermodern now)
In San Antonio: “Dude, fiesta was over last month. By the way, that must’ve been one cascarone grande someone cracked on your head; you got glitter all over you.”I would pay cold hard cash to see any one of these scenarios play out. 😆 😆 😆
Lucky for Mr. Gold, he’ll prbably maintain his current Storybrooke physical appearance.
@Josephine wrote:
I’ve been thinking about Emma, Henry, true love, the Charmings, and Henry’s father and it kept circling in my head. The theme of the show is that true love is the most powerful magic in the world. It got me thinking in OUaT that true love begets true love. I’ll explain…
Snow’s father loved her mother deeply. We’ve even seen him talk about it in front of Regina. So Snow is a product of true love. Then there is Charming. His mother tells of how she dearly loved his father and that true love will follow the ring she gave him, just like it did for her. Next in line is Emma, who we know is the product of Snow’s and Charming’s love for each other, and hence why she’s the savior curtesy of Rumple’s curse.
So that leaves Henry. The last in a long line of true love. We know that Emma truly loves Henry, but unlike the others, he’s not the product of true love. He’s the result of some messed up, accidental, dysfunctional relationship. She was a teenager, he wasn’t told she was pregnant, then she got arrested. Not the outcome of true love. So what’s different with Henry? Why did the cycle stop with his conception?
Or will his parents ultimately be each other’s romantic true loves. The show preaches it and shoves it down our throats, so why for the main character does she not have what everyone around her, even Rumple, has? Do you think they’ll eventually bring back Henry’s father, whoever he is, and redeem him in her eyes?
That’s a very interesting question. I have no idea why Henry (who’s arguably the only character on the show with any common sense) is not the product of true love. Judging by his belief in magic and the curse, and his unwavering faith in what’s “good,” you’d think he would be the product of true love.
Unless Emma isn’t telling us something. Sometimes a bitter break up can make us view our exes in a bad light. She may have been in love with him, but after they separated, she grew bitter. Who knows?
I think Rumpel has already paid his price. He lost Baelfire and he lost Belle. I think the fact that Belle has been brought back into his life is just pure luck. (Thanks Regina! 😆 ) His price has already been paid. The only difference is that Mr. Gold does not accept the price. He’s already been punished, but he’s fighting back against the punishment. Now, that would be an interesting idea to explore. What happends when you reject the price of magic? What happens when you don’t accept the punishment?
I seriously doubt Mr. Gold was create the world’s most powerful curse, sacrifice an enormous amount of time, energy (and quite frankly scores of innocent lives) just to forget about Baelfire. It doesn’t make sense. Everything Rumpel has done has led to him creating the curse to find Baelfire. So, I’m still holding the stance that Mr. Gold brought magic to Storybrooke for Baelfire.
However, revenge may also be one of his reasons as well. I don’t see Mr. God letting Regina off the hook for what Regina did.
I chose Mr. Gold and Jefferson. I love how similar their stories are. The loss of their children drove them both to madness. Love the tragic parallels.
@charming wrote:
@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
Jefferson deserves a gold medal for rescuing Belle. No, I’m serious. Someone give this man his reward. 😀
I can’t wait to see where the writers Belle’s her story in season 2. I was surprised to hear that she’ll be in season 2 because there were there were so many cynics who said that she was going to die in the finale. Thank all the gods in heaven they were wrong.
I think Belle and Rumpel will eventually have their happy ending. No one on the show has been able to truly separate themselves from their true love. They always find a way to see each other again. Even when one of them believes the other to be dead (Belle and Rumpel, Abigal and Frederick), they always end up meeting each other again in another life. Rumpel lost Belle in his previous life, but now he has a chance to be with her in this new life. Yes, they will have a ton of obsticals, but like I said before, no one can escape true love.
If Rumple’s happy ending is with Belle where does Bae fit into the equation? He did all of this for Bae and not Belle. He did not know she was alive until the last 15 minutes of the show. I think his happy ending originally did not involve Bae but Belle showing up changed things a bit. If it did come down to a choice between Bae or Belle and had to make only one choice who would it be??? As cruel as it maybe I believe Belle is expendable and he’d pick Bae over Belle, otherwise his whole master plan would have been for nothing.
Why should Mr. Gold be forced to choose? Most people don’t have to choose between their spouse and their child. Why can’t he have both? That’s what a happy ending means. Do you honestly think Rumpel can have a happy ending without the woman he loves? He needs them both. Having his son back in his life would be an absolute blessing. But having him without Belle would be bittersweet. It’s the same reason why he refused to cast the Dark Curse himself. He knew that in order to do it, he had to kill the thing he loved most, and sense Baelfire was missing at the time, that role was filled by Belle. But he wouldn’t stoop low enough to kill her. He’d just be creating another hole in his heart.
We clearly saw how haunted he was by the death of Belle in “Skin Deep.” So, living a life without her would not be considered a happy ending. He’d be living without his true love, and we’ve already seen the engative effects of living without someone’s true love can cause. Just ask Snow, Charming, Abigail, Frederick, and Regina. It’s almost like saying that you can have a happy ending even though your wife was savagely killed. No, you wouldn”t be able to because the death of your wife would haunt you until the day you die. So, Belle has to be a part of his happy ending, because she makes him happy. Simple.
I agree with A_Desperate_Soul, Baelfire would want his father to fall in love. Baelfire would probably view Belle as evidence that his father hadn’t completely given up on love. Belle is an example of the last remaining feelings of love and compassion that resides within Rumpel. Baelfire would be proud of that. He’d probably encourage it.
And I don’t view having Belle back in Mr. Gold’s life as a wrench in his plan. He probably views it as a bonus. He thought she had committed suicide after being mercilessly tortured by her father. He probably placed the majority of the blame on himself. So, to see her walk back into his life alive and well was a blessing. Her ghost haunted him for years, so he’s probably releaved to know that she’s been alive all this time.
I LOVE this video! 😀 😀 😀
Wow. It hasn’t even been 24 hours and people are already making fan videos about their reunion. 😆
I seriously doubt Rumpel would have killed Belle for the curse. Like other have already stated, he had the oppurnity to kill her and he didn’t. He sent her away twice. The first time was out of genuine kindness and the second time was out of anger. But the point is that he didn’t use her for the curse. So, I definitely don’t see him using her for another curse now. Now Regina…that’s anyone’s guess. 😯
Besides, Rumpel’s main objective was to find his loved one. Why would he sacrifice another loved one? He’d be sacrificing one love for another. That’s why he chose not to enact the curse himself. He had to find someone desperate enough to do it for him. Someone even more desperate than he was. And that was Regina.
