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ONE: the thread should not be in character discussion but in general theories section, either for the overall show or the season two.
TWO: the thread already exist, here: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=2105 (‘When/if Neal shows up in Storybrooke‘)
Sorry but it’s good to stick to the forums’ structure, otherwise we get lots of similar threads all over the place. (*cough* like hundreds random Captain Hook topics *cough*)

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Thanks, this is very very useful!!!! Whoever’s done it put LOTS of effort into it, nicely done!
It clears some of the fact although I wouldn’t say it’s a definite time line – in the show often there aren’t any exact references so one would argue eg. if the Evil Queen sent Hook to Cora after she tried enacting the curse with the minions and not before that.
True, Henry the father wasn’t anywhere to be seen when Killian arrived but he doesn’t have to follow his daughter everywhere, plus wouldn’t Regina make sure of her mother’s death BEFORE any attempts of enacting the curse? I’m actually opting for the Hook’s mission to Wonderland to be BEFORE gathering with the minions by the fire. Which would explain why Regina used Henry’s heart and not Cora’s to complete the curse – she simply learnt too late of what actually had to be done – her mother was already thought to be dead.

Let me post the actual timeline here, saves switching between the tabs/windows:

Enchanted Forest

Rumpelstiltskin deserts the Ogre Wars
Milah, Rumpelstiltskin’s wife, abandons her family for Captain Killian Jones
Rumpelstiltskin seeks a way to keep his son Baelfire from being drafted into the Ogre wars
Rumpelstiltskin becomes the Dark One
Baelfire seeks help from the Blue Fairy to cure Rumpelstiltskin
Baelfire travels to a new world; Rumpelstiltskin doesn’t go with him
Rumpelstiltskin searches for a way to reunite with Baelfire
Rumpelstiltskin confronts Killian Jones and discovers Milah
Rumpelstiltskin rips out Milah’s heart and kills her; he then cuts off Killian’s hand
Killian travels to Neverland to plan his revenge

-time gap-

Jiminy procures a potion from Rumpelstiltskin that will free him from his parents
Jiminy’s parents switches the potion with rain water to give to Gepetto’s parents
Jiminy asks the Blue Fairy to turn him into a cricket so he can watch over Gepetto

-time gap-

King Leopold’s wife dies
Regina saves Snow’s life and as a result becomes engaged to King Leopold
Snow catches Regina kissing the stable boy, Daniel, and promises not to tell
Cora, Regina’s mom, tricks Snow into telling her about Daniel
Regina & Daniel try to run away together but Cora stops them & crushes Daniel’s heart
Regina finds out that Snow told Cora about Daniel
Regina summons Rumpelstiltskin to free her from Cora
Rumpelstiltskin gives Regina a portal disguised as a mirror to push Cora through
Regina agrees to let Rumpelstiltskin teach her magic
Regina marries King Leopold
Jefferson brings Rumpelstiltskin an orb from the land of Oz
Rumpelstiltskin fires Regina as his apprentice because she’s still holding on to Daniel
Jefferson offers his services to Regina and introduces her to the Doctor
Regina gives the Doctor a heart from Cora’s vault to bring Daniel back to life
The Doctor performs the surgery and fails
Regina returns to Rumpelstiltskin more dedicated to do what is needed to learn dark magic
Rumpelstiltskin rewards the Doctor for breaking Regina’s hope of reviving Daniel
The Doctor returns to his world with the magical heart
King Leopold finds the magic lamp and meets the Genie, whom he frees with his first wish
The Genie professes his love to Regina and gives her a mirror
Regina manipulates the Genie into killing King Leopold
The Genie is trapped inside the mirror when he wishes to always be with Regina
Regina hires a huntsman to kill Snow
The Huntsman shows mercy towards Snow and lets her go
Red catches Snow stealing eggs and invites her to stay with her and Granny
Red discovers she is the wolf terrorizing her village after eating her boyfriend
Snow helps Red flee from an angry mob
Red meets her mother and her pack; they teach her to control her wolf side
Red kills her mother in defense of Snow
The Ogre wars have started again; Sir Maurice calls upon Rumpelstiltskin for help
Rumpelstiltskin agrees to protect the village in exchange for Sir Maurice’s daughter, Belle
Belle falls in love with Rumpelstiltskin but decides to leave anyway
Regina changes Belle’s mind by telling her of true love’s kiss
Belle tries to cure Rumpelstiltskin with true love’s kiss and he casts her out in anger
Prince James is killed and his father, King George summons Rumpelstiltskin
Rumpelstiltskin agrees to procure another Prince James in exchange for a fairy’s location
Rumpelstiltskin convinces Prince James’ twin (Charming) to step into his role as Prince
Charming fills the role of Prince James and slays the dragon for King Midas; as a result he becomes engaged to King Midas’ daughter Abigail
Charming says goodbye to his mother, Ruth, and she gives him the “true love” ring
Snow robs Charming’s carriage
Charming tracks Snow down to get his mother’s ring back only to discover it was sold
Snow and Charming embark on an adventure to get the ring back and part ways afterward
Rumpelstiltskin gives Snow a potion to remove her feelings for Charming in exchange for a strand of her hair
Charming sends a letter to Snow professing his love and asks to meet
Snow breaks into King George’s castle to meet Charming but is captured
Snow is placed in a cell next to Grumpy who she meets for the first time
Stealthy breaks Grumpy and Snow out of prison and is killed in the process
Snow rejects Charming to protect him and returns to the dwarves
Hansel and Gretel are separated from their father and meet Regina
Regina manipulates Hansel and Gretel into stealing a poisoned red apple from the Blind Witch in the candy house
Snow consumes the potion she got from Rumpelstiltskin
Charming calls off his wedding to Abigail
Abigail offers to help Charming
Charming heals Abigail’s love, Frederick, with water from Lake Nolstos
Charming tries to find Snow with help from Red who fends off King George’s men
Snow decides to kill Regina
Snow procures a bow and arrow from Rumpelstiltskin and Regina’s location
Charming goes to Rumpelstiltskin and trades his coat for Snow’s whereabouts
Charming finds Snow and tries to restore her memory with true love’s kiss but fails
Snow is thwarted from killing Regina by Charming
In realization that Charming cares for her, Snow kisses him and regains her memory
Rumpelstiltskin creates a true love potion using Snow and Charming’s hair
King George’s men captures Charming
Regina procures Charming from King George
Snow and her friends breaking into King George’s
Snow discovers that Charming is being held by Regina and agrees to meet her
Regina tells Snow the truth about Daniel and gives her the poisoned red apple
Snow willingly bites into the apple in exchange for Charming’s life
Charming escapes from Regina but she transports him into the infinite forest
Rumpelstiltskin offers to help Charming if he puts an egg encased love potion into a dragon
Charming goes to Maleficent and discovers she is the dragon; he inserts the egg into her
Rumpelstiltskin enchants the ‘true love’ ring to help Charming find Snow
Charming awakens Snow with a kiss and they vow to defeat Regina and King George
Snow and Charming are planning a battle against King George when they are ambushed
Snow is captured and King George poison’s her so she becomes barren
Ruth is injured and they travel to Lake Nolstos to heal her
Ruth sacrifices herself so that Snow can have the last drop of healing water to cure her curse
Charming and Snow are married by Lancelot before Ruth dies
Rumpelstiltskin kills Cinderella’s fairy-godmother—who is associated with King George—for her wand
Cinderella makes a deal with Rumpelstiltskin in exchange for his help to get to the ball
Regina manipulates Jefferson into using his hat to take her to Wonderland
Once in Wonderland, Regina rescues her father, Henry, and leaves Jefferson behind
Jefferson is decapitated on Cora, the Queen of Hearts, orders and sentenced to make a new hat that will travel to the Enchanted Forest
Regina threatens Snow and Charming with a curse at their wedding
Cinderella marries Prince Thomas; at the celebration Rumpelstiltskin informs her he’s taking her first born
Cinderella informs Prince Thomas of the deal she made with Rumpelstiltskin
Rumpelstiltskin is captured and Prince Thomas disappears as a consequence
Regina steals the curse from Maleficent and gathers minions to enact it (incorrectly)
Snow and Charming visit Rumpelstiltskin to find out what Regina is up to; he tells them that their unborn daughter, Emma, is the savior in exchange for her name
The Blue Fairy asks Gepetto to build a wardrobe using a magical tree
Gepetto bargains with the Blue Fairy to save Pinocchio
The Blue Fairy lies to Snow and Charming about there being only one passenger for the wardrobe
Regina visits Rumpelstiltskin in prison and he tells her how to enact the curse correctly for a price
Regina kills her father, Henry.
Killian “rescues” Belle and questions her of a way to kill Rumpelstiltskin; when he finds her useless he tries to kill her but Regina stops him
Regina offers to help Killian with his revenge if he kills Cora; she enchants his hook to rip out Cora’s heart
Killian travels to Wonderland to rip out Cora’s heart but discovers she had moved it
Killian switches his allegiance to Cora and they fake her death so she can kill Regina
Regina says goodbye to Cora’s “corpse” and admits her love to her; because of this, Cora has a change of heart
Cora protects a corner of the land from the curse
Gepetto places Pinocchio in the wardrobe
Snow gives birth to Emma and Charming fights his way, one armed, through the castle to get Emma to the wardrobe
Snow stumbles into the nursery to discover Charming injured and Emma saved; Regina shows up to gloat

Before Storybrooke

Pinocchio (August) arrives through the portal first and waits for Emma
Pinocchio (August) takes Emma to a café
August abandons Emma in foster care to run off with other foster kids
Emma meets Neal Cassady in Portland after stealing a car he’d already stolen
After sharing a life of crime, Emma and Neal flirt with the idea of settling down
Neal discovers that the authorities are still looking to arrest him for a heist he committed before meeting Emma
Emma retrieves the stolen goods from Neal’s heist so they can run away together
August confronts Neal and convinces him to leave Emma to perform her destiny
Emma is found wearing one of the stolen goods Neal gave her and is arrested
2 months after Emma’s arrest, Neal meets up with August and gives him an envelope full of cash and the keys to his car to give Emma
Emma receives the car keys but not the cash while in prison and also discovers that she is pregnant
Emma gives birth to baby Henry and gives him up for adoption
Emma spends time in Tallahassee

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Now, this is a song connected to Regina in so many ways:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk63Psr3wzY
“Windmills of your mind” best covered by Sting.

I can just picture Regina siting in her living room by the fire place, sipping the strongest apple cider she could make and bitterly contemplating her life…

Why this song? First and obvious – she’s miller’s daughter.
Second, which I think it’s pretty safe to assume, she is also Don Quixote – her horse’s name is Rocinante and she IS “tilting at windmills” i.e. battling imaginary enemy, that is, the happiness of everyone else. It resonates in her head and she’s trying to control it but she really can’t. That, and the distant memory of the person and the happiness that she could’ve had.
Third – just look at the lyrics:

Round, like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel.
Never ending or beginning,
On an ever spinning wheel //connections to Rumple?…
Like a snowball down a mountain //…and to Snow White 😉
Or a carnaval balloon
Like a carousell that’s turning
Running rings around the moon

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping // as if a nod to Alice’s White Rabbit and his clock
Past the minutes on it’s face
And the world is like an apple // pretty self-explanatory
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it’s own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone
Like a door that keeps revolving
In a half forgotten dream // the Storybrooke dream
Or the ripples from a pebble
Someone tosses in a stream.

Keys that jingle in your pocket // Regina’s keys that open every door
Words that jangle your head
Why did summer go so quickly
Was it something that I said
Lovers walking allong the shore, // Regina and Daniel, evidently 😈
Leave their footprints in the sand
Was the sound of distant drumming
Just the fingers of your hand

Pictures hanging in a hallway
And a fragment of this song
Half remembered names and faces
But to whom do they belong
When you knew that it was over
Were you suddenly aware
That the autumn leaves were turning
To the color of her hair

Yes, I really can’t wait for OUAT to be back… 🙄

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Regina:
_ _ _ _—_ _ _ A _ _ _—_ A _ _—_ _ _ T—T _ _ _ _—_ _ _ _ _ .

Letters used: A, T

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All right, am I the only one picking on Henry being up to something?
He tried so hard for Emma not to walk him to school which is really odd since he loved spending time with her. And she’s just came back from the FTL – after all this time of missing and worrying about her, ‘the usual Henry’ wouldn’t leave her for a second! (he would also be asking way more questions about her adventures but I guess he must have been told all the stories in the ‘off screen’ time).
Instead, he was finding millions excuses to be walked to school alone – and when Pongo arrives and Emma finally agrees to that, he just says ‘ok’ and he’s gone. Now, ‘the usual Henry’ would have been way more interested in what was happening with the dog and his first reaction would’ve been more along the lines “Cool, “wolf thing”, what do WE do?”. He would probably even find some name for the ‘operation’. But this time, he gives the story a miss, even though Red seems to be really worried…
If you ask me, this is VERY UNLIKE HENRY, I don’t believe he’s not up to something!

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Ooooh, I can just imagine:

Regina: I need some friends!

Archie: I can be one, say, do you like arm wrestling?

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The Charmings theme – “I Was Made For Lovin’ You” by KISS

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I would love to see her script for that scene – apparently she keeps scribbling notes all over her scripts so this one would be a really good fun to read!

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