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@Josephine wrote:
It’s interesting to hear everyone’s opinions. It never entered my mind that Regina and Leopold didn’t sleep together. Royalty, the aristocracy, and other well-to-do couples have a history of separate bedrooms. I saw nothing off about that. Marital relations was a duty that a wife was supposed to perform. Maybe not regularly, but I never imagined Leopold didn’t visit Regina sometimes.
All the signs point to her being barren. She was married for a number of years in a time when birth control wasn’t probably used, and she was royalty and probably expected to bear a child. Also, like has been mentioned above, although she couldn’t get pregnant because of the curse and time standing still in Storybrooke, when Emma decided to stay time started moving. So there is a possibility of women getting pregnant because time was moving. Yet Regina didn’t, whether the result of birth control or her infertility.
She also has a history of being obsessed with children. She wanted Hansel and Gretel to stay with her and when they wouldn’t she banished their father to the unending forest. She tried to take Owen and when he didn’t want her she kidnapped his dad. That’s not a good pattern. You want what you can’t have. If she’s unable to bear children, she’s probably obsessed with it. The fact that Snow and Charming were able to conceive so quickly was probably just another twist of the knife from her perspective.
Agreed on all points… I firmly believe that she and Leopold had a “normal” marriage. She would have been expected to sleep with him at some point. As far as her being barren, that is something I have thought for a while, but the original suggestion was that she did have a child at some point, and it either died or Rumple took it and told her it died. Would think it very interesting if that was the case and the child turned out to be Peter Pan, or another child in SB that we haven’t seen yet. Also had the thought that it would be cool if the child turned out to be Grace. This is a big stretch, as all of this is, but would be interesting to see played out. In my opinion anyway. Would make for a BIG twist and big reveal.
All in all I think her obsession with children does mean something, and I think it will be revealed at some point.
[adrotate group="5"]I think it would be more hurtful for Regina if they didn’t sleep together. Regina was trapped in a loveless marriage. Sex was seen as a sign of love. Leopold didn’t want Regina as a wife, he wanted her as a mother for Snow. Regina wouldn’t have been allowed to have other men and yet Leopold didn’t want her. She didn’t feel loved and Leopold would always mention how he loved Snow’s mother.[/quote]
True she didn’t feel loved, but that did not mean that they did not sleep together. Regina proved that sex could be done without love, Graham, maybe that was why she did it with Graham, because all she had ever known was loveless sex. I mean it is entirely possible that they never slept together, but I just don’t think so. Regina was a beautiful woman, and they were married, so it would have been expected. Sex in those times was seen as a way to reproduce, not for a love connection. This is just in my opinion anyway, I think mostly because I do love the idea of Regina having the chance to have a child that was truly hers’.
Priceofmagic, all very good points to think on.. Although, I personally think that Regina and Leopold did sleep together throughout their marriage, only bc this adds more to the hurt for Regina, and bc they made it such a point that yes he wanted a mother for snow, but also said that the king was a lonely man, I don’t think that meant he was wanting someone to share his problems with, he wanted a companion, to me this symbolized a sexual companion, not a friend. Again could be something that I read all wrong and could simply just mean someone for him to spend the rest of his days with, and just a mother for Snow, nothing more.
All very good points made, but I still have a feeling that they have left a doorway open for this subject to be brought up at some point, maybe not this season but next. If brought up this season, it will def be in “The Evil Queen” episode coming up. I’m very intrigued into what this episode is going to reveal.
I agree.. If that’s the case that she is infertile it was def not an accident! So happy to know that someone else noticed that with Owen, I thought I was the only one that saw it, and thought I was reading too much into it. But I felt like that statement meant more that just it is what it is kinda statement. That it hurt her to think that she either was pregnant and lost it or she knew she couldn’t have a baby of her own. To me that was what I saw was hurt in her reaction.
I don’t think Regina would have left SB to have some random one night stand just to have a child, she did like to sleep around, but the world outside of SB was a big unknown for her, and prob took her a while to realize she could cross the line and come back, that knowledge was not just automatically there, she had to figure out lots of things about what the curse actually did. Her not getting pregnant in SB I can understand, but FTL is different, so I think it’s highly possible that Cora made her infertile, or she was just naturally infertile. Which would make her feel even more out of place with Leopold, just one more thing she couldn’t give him, making her feel useless and not wanted.
But! I do think it would be an awesome twist if we find out she did indeed have a child with Leopold, and she thought it died. But really Rumple took it and stashed it away someplace.. Would be really cool if it turned out to be Peter Pan, but this I know is a BIG LONGSHOT!!
Well throughout the time with Graham she couldn’t get pregnant bc the curse stopped time, hence the reason Ashley was pregnant for 28yrs, but doesn’t explain why she didn’t when Emma showed up and started to weaken the curse. Unless they used some type of birth control.
I could def see her at least trying to get pregnant with Graham within that 18yr time frame, not realizing that she couldn’t get pregnant bc of the curse. Now I don’t think it took her 18yrs to realize this fact.. This is all def an interesting factor that I would like to see answered..
Yes, or Cora caused her to be infertile because a child would definitely be a distraction, and a huge weakness.
True, I have thought this as well, but I think it adds to the pain of her having to share a bed with a man she never really loved when she was so very young and full of dreams and ideals of marriage, love etc. And for him he was looking for a mother for Snow, but he was also a “lonely” man as pointed out several times.
