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@Faux Pax wrote:
What I see neither is Bae having magic like Emma – how so? Doubt he was a child of true love.
But what about Henry? If Neal is Bae and if he is Emma’s true love, then couldn’t that mean he has his own kind of magic? And if we consider the fact that Emma is the end of the curse, but Bae was the beginning, then it could have interesting implications for just what kind of magic he has.
That is a really good observation…and I love the part about Bae is the beginning of the curse and Emma is the end of it. It sure looks like that could mean that Henry is extra special.
[adrotate group="5"]@ihr wrote:
Episode title – Manhattan
I’m really looking forward to this episode. I’ve been having a lot of fun digging for clues related to Manhattan…so it will be interesting to see what they do with this. Theories can be an ever evolving thing but right now I think that Neal is possibly participating in a film class…maybe at NYU. It is easy to see connections where there aren’t any but right now I do seem to find a lot of correlations with various aspects of New York City. I must say that I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all that I have learned. Right after high school my family moved to Egypt and because of that experience I’ve gotten to go to lots of places around the world…but I have never been to New York City (except in a plane on the tarmac)….and now, I would really like to go.
I’ve been trying think of who Baelfire might be if he is not Peter Pan and one possibility I’ve come up with is the Sorcerer’s Apprentice. My family watched Disney’s 2010 Sorcerer’s Apprentice today and I really noticed how many things (alot) in it could tie in with Once Upon a Time.
What if Baelfire has magic, like Emma, but because of his father he wants nothing to do with it. I noticed some real similarities in the movie with Neal Cassidy. Neal lives in a building on the corner of Grand and Mulberry St. which is part of the infamous Canal St. area…Dave (the sorcerer’s apprentice) lives at Canal St. Although Neal lives across the street from an italian restaurant he is in China town…Dave also is right by China town. There are a lot of subway connections between the two movies. Dave is a student at NYU and my new theory is that Neal is taking a film class at NYU.
It could make for some interesting stories if Rumple’s son, who hates magic, ends up having magic. In the Sorcerer’s Apprentice there is the scene where the mops go crazy with the cleaning and the water…which made me think of the sign in Neal’s apartment, “Cleaner & Hatter.” What if “cleaner” refer’s to the mop thing…and Hatter refers to the magic hat that magicians use.
@craxyfox wrote:
@fairy dust wrote:
One more thought……with all the talk we have had about dreams…surely they wouldn’t pull a “Dallas”/ Wizard of Oz moment on us…you know the moment when someone wakes up and it has all been a dream. 😮
Thanks for sharing all that! I’ll definitely have to go back and rewatch those episodes 🙂
I think if this was all a dream,there would be a mob of people with torches and pitchforks at the producers’ houses 😆Thank you craxyfox! I don’t know how much of it would be a dream…but think about it…what happened to Emma and Mary Margaret after they were sucked through the spinning tornado like portal…they were knocked out…just like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. 😀
Then we have David in a sleeping curse…Henry asleep having dreams…Aurora asleep having dreams…August who turned to wood…laying in the bed…we had Belle having a dream…we that scene where Regina was going to strangle little Snow, that turned out to be a day dream…we had Regina having a dream about being executed…tied to a tree…I think it might be time to rethink everything we’ve seen and figure out what is real and what is a dream. 😀
If we have been seeing some dreams…then maybe some people we think are dead are very much alive.
We could even have more than one person dreaming…theories and guesses and questions…Oh My!
One more thought……with all the talk we have had about dreams…surely they wouldn’t pull a “Dallas”/ Wizard of Oz moment on us…you know the moment when someone wakes up and it has all been a dream. 😮
@craxyfox wrote:
I don’t know what’s going on exactly now 😆
But I find this interesting,the start of Broken didn’t make sense to me at first and when I watched it the first time I thought I was on the wrong channel 😆 ,the beginning didn’t make sense in how the sounds/music appearing and the switching of scenes wasn’t normal ‘Once’ style to me. I’m still a little confused on what it might mean altogether but it is an interesting ideaCraxyfox…I’ve got some screen shots and more details that I will post tomorrow…I’m directing a children’s play this evening and I’m still working on last minute costume problems. One pattern to look for that helps support the theory is that when we see obvious “errors”..Clock Tower reflection in the window with no clock on top…props behind Emma changing etc…in these cases the characters are talking about deceiving people..operation Cobra talk…throwing people off track talk.
We also have some scenes where it looks like the camera is pointed toward a scene but the camera is really pointing toward a mirror and the real scene is behind us…in these scenes there is trickery going on. Example: Emma and Sidney discussing the info they got when they broke into Regina’s office. We later realize that Emma has been tricked by Sidney and Regina…it was all a set up. Another example is when Emma is looking at the art work above Jefferson’s fireplace. the camera pans back and we realize that we have been looking in a mirror. That whole scene is about Jefferson setting Emma up…tricking her. Another example…when Henry is riding his bike to his castle and he sees that it is damaged and his book is gone…we first see Henry riding his bicycle toward us and then the camera pulls back and we realize we have been seeing Henry in the reflection of Emma’s side mirror. We later learn that the whole castle thing was a trick that Regina pulled on Emma and Henry. These are just three scenes that come to my mind…there may be more.
I’m looking forward to the next half of the season, because now…there is a good chance that there are things that we thought we knew…but will turn out to be something completely different. 😀
@Lil’Red wrote:
@Gypsy wrote:
Maybe it was filmed in a diff manner because it wasn’t FTL or Storybrooke.
The S1 pilot opened that way….in the real world, so, they opened S2 in the real world.
I think it’s as simple as that.
They introduced Emma that way and they introduced Neal that way, nothing more.
This is what I think, and that the filming style and effects were to make the real world kind of feel mundane compared to magical realms and Storybrooke.
That is a good theory Lil’Red…I guess we will have to wait and find out if things have been what they have seemed. Time will tell… 😀
Hahaha you are so funny abowling ball…and I have no idea what stuffed and smoked fish you are talking about. The fish I am referring to are flat, painted stage props that were backstage on the City Hall stage…and the painted picture of a fish hanging in Gold’s shop on the Once game. I’m not talk real fish here…and by the way…I went back and looked at all the posts you’ve made since you joined this forum. In your first group of posts you were very articulate…and then at some point you shifted to all this ain’t…ya’ll…type talk. Your first post on this forum was about one of my posts. You know what I think abowlingball…maybe you are the red herring 😀 . I invite anyone to simply go to your profile page and read your past posts. There is a pattern…you get on slam people…and then make a few quick one sentence benign posts and then you are gone for two weeks and you get back on and do it again…then gone for two weeks…and then get back on. It’s right there for anyone to read…I’ve never engaged you in any kind of argument…discussion, heck I’ve never even responded to one of your posts. . It is very interesting…so here is the thing…if you don’t like my posts then don’t read them..simple as that. No hard feelings on my part…anyone can do a search and see that I have never had even one discussion with you….now I’m moving on and I’m going to enjoy what this forum is all about…theories…ideas…and fun. 😀 😀 😀 I have never responded to any of the rudeness until today. Read the posts…read the responses that are made to abowling ball…by me and by others and draw your own conclusions. I have a pretty good idea what is going on here…but its no big deal and I’m moving on. This show is too much fun to let posts like this get me down. 😀 https://oncepodcast.com/forums/search.php?author_id=565&sr=posts
Sorry for any confusion…
I’m not saying that it is not his apartment…or that the dream catcher isn’t his…or that Emma and Henry passed cameras that are filming them.
What I am saying is that it looks to me like Neal is in an undergraduate film class…an intro level type thing. In a class like this, several students team up and they have to film short projects that are just a few minutes long….and these projects focus on things like continuity, shadows, sound effects, parallel action…etc. So what we are seeing in the first 2 minutes of Broken is what Neal and his team are filming. The team films him walking out of Central Park, walking along the sidewalk, crossing the street…getting on the Subway…going up the elevator…coming into the apartment…throwing the backpack on the bed…”closing” the window…looking out at the fire escape etc. These are all part of what Neal and his team are filming. In film projects like this there are usually additional props brought in to help communicate an unspoken message. The whole idea of film projects like this is to try to communicate a story without words. So we are watching him “act” in a film project. But then something unexpected happens…while they are filming a bird flies onto the window sill…and it has postcard that says Broken.
If you watch for it, you can see the reflection of his film team (his fellow students) in the train window both inside and outside of the subway train. Neal is a student going to school and he is working on a project for a filmmaking class filmmaking class. That is what the first two minutes of Broken are about.
