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@fairy dust wrote:
A couple of things have been kicking around in my head. The episode description did not say that anyone was murdered…just that Regina was accused of murdering a beloved fairy tale character. That doesn’t mean that someone wasn’t really murdered but it does leave a lot of options open. Also…why the description of the person supposedly murdered as a fairy tale person…rather than someone in the town of Storybrook? I’m not sure I have any answers…lots of good possibilities have been listed but I’ve thought of a few more.
1. Hook kidnaps Archie and holds him captive in the clock tower (remember when Jiminy Cricket was tied up in the cukoo clock). The motive…trying to find out what Archie knows about Rumple’s weakness. This possibility came to me when I was looking again at Archie’s journal in the Once game. Archie writes that it is important to destroy notes of earlier session and how it is better to have no record of Rumple’s weakness. He also writes about going into hiding or a protection program if Rumple comes for counseling. I guess he could also be in hiding (clock tower?).
2. Archie is not murdered or kidnapped but rather he is missing because he is trying to work out his own guilt issues regarding Gepetto’s parents. In We are Both he was one of the ones who wanted to cross the line to erase his memories and in his journal he writes that he was happier before the curse was broken…and that the existence of Marco/Gepetto and the debt he can never fill tie him forever to the cricket he was. Another possibility is Archie is once again considering crossing the line.
…and I really like the suggestion of Cora impersonating Archie. Talk about a fast track to a lot of information. Possibly Archie is captive in the clock tower and Cora is impersonating. That would be an interesting story line.
or…..Cora could be impersonating Pongo.,..also Regina could be impersonating someone. There was an episode where Regina morphed into a rat…so we know she can shape shift too. There is also that picture of the dog (“August” by Theodor Philipsen) on the wall of Rumple’s shop in the Once game…that morphs into the Evil Queen when you scroll over it.
[adrotate group="5"]A couple of things have been kicking around in my head. The episode description did not say that anyone was murdered…just that Regina was accused of murdering a beloved fairy tale character. That doesn’t mean that someone wasn’t really murdered but it does leave a lot of options open. Also…why the description of the person supposedly murdered as a fairy tale person…rather than someone in the town of Storybrook? I’m not sure I have any answers…lots of good possibilities have been listed but I’ve thought of a few more.
1. Hook kidnaps Archie and holds him captive in the clock tower (remember when Jiminy Cricket was tied up in the cukoo clock). The motive…trying to find out what Archie knows about Rumple’s weakness. This possibility came to me when I was looking again at Archie’s journal in the Once game. Archie writes that it is important to destroy notes of earlier session and how it is better to have no record of Rumple’s weakness. He also writes about going into hiding or a protection program if Rumple comes for counseling. I guess he could also be in hiding (clock tower?).
2. Archie is not murdered or kidnapped but rather he is missing because he is trying to work out his own guilt issues regarding Gepetto’s parents. In We are Both he was one of the ones who wanted to cross the line to erase his memories and in his journal he writes that he was happier before the curse was broken…and that the existence of Marco/Gepetto and the debt he can never fill tie him forever to the cricket he was. Another possibility is Archie is once again considering crossing the line.
…and I really like the suggestion of Cora impersonating Archie. Talk about a fast track to a lot of information. Possibly Archie is captive in the clock tower and Cora is impersonating. That would be an interesting story line.
I think when Hook tried to take Cora’s heart, it was hidden in the enormous cuff of her sleeve…in other words, she was” wearing her heart on her sleeve.”
The phrase, “wearing your heart on your sleeve,” came from Shakespear.
The term doesn’t date from that period though and is first recorded in Shakespeare’s Othello, 1604. In the play, the treacherous Iago’s plan was to feign (fake) openness and vulnerability in order to appear faithful:
Iago:
It is sure as you are Roderigo,
Were I the Moor, I would not be Iago:
In following him, I follow but myself;
Heaven is my judge, not I for love and duty,
But seeming so, for my peculiar end:
For when my outward action doth demonstrate
The native act and figure of my heart
In compliment extern, ’tis not long after
But I will wear my heart upon my sleeve
For daws to peck at: I am not what I am.[attachment=0:324yz33l]Cora.jpg[/attachment:324yz33l]
My second and third guess are in that pile of hair on top of her head…or in the fat part of her mask/sceptor thingy. I can’t imagine her not keeping it close by where she could guard it.
@fairy dust wrote:
@AntBee wrote:
It’s in the episode 13 thread under Set pics – December 10th. Here’s the link to the spoilers, http://vancityfilming.com/articles/once-upon-a-time-filming-in-vancouver/#prettyPhoto
Click on the spoiler if you need something to make you smile. 😀
I'm wondering if this is modern day scene or could it be a flash-back of Emma tracking down Neal after she got out of jail? There have been hints about Emma's having a bad experience with a married man…and I'm wondering if that is Neal…either he was really married or he could have lied and said that he was married. The real life Neal Cassady got two women pregnant at the same time…and was accused of being a bigamist. She was in Talahassee for two years…could she have been looking for him…waiting for him?
It does seem like this could be a flash-back. The bar is in Canada and we know Neal was going to go to Canada. Emma has her hair tucked behind her ears like she did in the scene where she was sitting in the jail cell with the pregnancy test…and Neal has on a black hoodie. I'm pretty sure they picked the bar because of its name…The Blarney Stone. The green drinks in the Season 2 promo picture look like they could be what is called a Blarney Stone. http://www.yumsugar.com/Happy-Hour-Blarney-Stone-1099917
The pub – http://blarneystone.ca/@AntBee wrote:
I just saw that Mark Isham put this on his Instagram,
1. Cora does Hook a favor? Probably related to Belle I’m guessing.
2. Cora and Hook hit the town.
3. Main Title (The Cricket Game?)
4. Sore Loser (Present day or could be flashback with Regina being the sore loser in the flashback?)
5. Regina Is Captured (Also could be present day or flashback or perhaps both?)
6. My Wishes (Whose wishes?)
7. Regina parties… (Maybe Archie doesn’t die if Regina is partying. I think Josephine might be hanging around me too much because I read a theory that she wrote at Fan Forums using the impostor idea. It might be too much like what happened with Kathryn, but if they’re going for another murder mystery already after Gus Gus’s murder just happened, then I think it’s possible that they could do another fake out by having someone seem like he/she was murdered but not really. This time Cora makes everyone think that Regina killed Archie only to have him pop again but really be Cora in disguise. Whether the real Archie is dead or not would be something that fans would have to wait and see about.)
8. Trying t…Great find! This morning I was reading about Cricket Cages….it seems like we have seen a lot of people behind bars or in a cage….so I’ve wondered if the Cricket Game has to do with manipulation/control/and capture. Seeing this title of Regina captured makes me wonder even more.
I’m not sure how they would tie it in with Storybrooke but we’ve already had some hints connecting Neal Cassidy to Coney Island and there is a big connection between Coney Island and mermaids. Every year they have a mermaid parade. Neal who possibly is Baelfire/Peter Pan, caught the N line on the Subway, which goes all the way to Coney Island.
The possible Coney Island connections I’ve seen so far…
1. Song Charley’s Girl that is playing when Neal is walking through New York and taking the Subway is from the album, My Coney Island Baby.
2. Neal takes the N line subway that ends at Coney Island. The MTA Art for Transit display that is at the Coney Island underground station is called, “My Coney Island Baby” and has a gigantic hot dog that is almost identical to the one Ruby is holding in the Season 2 promo picture. It also has an art work that looks amazingly like young Snow on her horse and it has a huge green ogarish monster with one red hand. I wondered why they would have Ruby, the Child of the Moon, hold the hot dog in the promo…but they I noticed that the Coney Island Park is named Luna Park…Luna means moon.
Also Coney Island fits in great with your name Piratesmermaid…they have mermaids…they used to have an amusement park called Peter Pan’s Playground…and they used to have a big pirate ship ride.
Link to hot dog picture (scroll down) – http://twi-ny.com/twiny.06.07.06.html
@Faux Pax wrote:
I think the conflict will come, not only because of what Neal did in the past, but from the idea Emma has that Rumple has manipulated her enter life. When she realizes that Neal is his son…I don’t think there’s any way she could see that as a coincidence and that will defiantly give her doubts (heck, Neal too) that their love was genuine rather then something Rumple somehow manufactured.
That’s a good point. I’m really looking forward to their story. I think the writers have done such a great job with his character….writing in a way that we love the character even though he has been in just a few episodes.
@Faux Pax wrote:
I hope she was referring to Ryan. Tallahassee did a good job of making us understand why Emma thought of Neal as a jerk without actually making him a jerk. If they made him married or pretend to be, that might mess with that balance a bit more then i would like. Besides, didn’t Emma mention a string of bad relationships? Maybe she was talking about one of them?
She could have been talking about another guy and I totally agree about the Tallahasse episode…they did a great job with his character.
One thing that I find interesting is something I heard one of the writers mention. They wanted the sheriff’s character to be Sherlock Holmes…but in the end they couldn’t get the rights to the character so they made him the huntsman. In Tallahassee, Neal mentions the phrase, “on the road” twice, once in the bug, and once in the hotel room. Since that is a nod to the book, On the Road, where the main character, Dean Moriarty, is Neal Cassady lightly fictionalized, and Kerouac has indicated that the Moriarty name is a reference to Sherlock Holmes’ nemisis…that seems too coincidental to be just a random thing. Emma is the new sheriff…the Huntsman who they wanted to be “Sherlock Holmes” character type…and Neal’s name conjures up Moriarty. I didn’t really think about it until today but Emma’s profession is very much like that of the Huntsman…as she was a Bounty Hunter. This is one of the reasons that I think they will find a way to put conflict in the relationship before things get worked out. I’m not sure how they will do that but I think it is a real possibility.
@AntBee wrote:
It’s in the episode 13 thread under Set pics – December 10th. Here’s the link to the spoilers, http://vancityfilming.com/articles/once-upon-a-time-filming-in-vancouver/#prettyPhoto
Click on the spoiler if you need something to make you smile. 😀
I'm wondering if this is modern day scene or could it be a flash-back of Emma tracking down Neal after she got out of jail? There have been hints about Emma's having a bad experience with a married man…and I'm wondering if that is Neal…either he was really married or he could have lied and said that he was married. The real life Neal Cassady got two women pregnant at the same time…and was accused of being a bigamist. She was in Talahassee for two years…could she have been looking for him…waiting for him? (It looks like he is wearing a black hoodie)
