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Is it all magic that comes with a price, or is it just the kind of magic Rumple and Regina do? I mean the fairies worked magic for centuries but they don’t seem to have paid some great price for that? Could it be that All dark magic (the kind done for personal gain/revenge) has a price, but if it’s done in good faith for others, it is a bit more “free?”
[adrotate group="5"]But there are supposed to be some major hints to his identity in his apartment and I saw nothing that screamed “Bae”
Perhaps nothing that necessarily screamed “Bae,” but the clock collection did remind me a lot of Henry. Perhaps that’s the easy clue they were talking about?
He had three *journals* stacked on his desk, all the same. With the dream catcher in the same shot, just behind, it seems to me he may keep dream journals. From what I remember from past psych classes, this is a way of dealing with incredibly traumatic events.
I like the idea that what Rumple caused lasting damage and not just him being bitter or angry or whatnot. I think that Bae almost has to be damaged deeply if Rumple is ever going to change. There are only a precious few people who he cares about and if the only way he will care about his actions is if they hurt one of those people.
In the episode The Stranger, I always though it odd that AWB kniew to call Gold Papa when he himself called Gepetto Father. Who told him that’s what Bae called Rumple? The Blue Fairy? Possibly, however, I believe that somewhere, either in the orphanage or out in the real world, Bae & AWB met and that’s how AWB knows so much about Rumple.
I don’t like the idea that Bae told AWB about the dagger. I mean, it’s the one thing that can kill his dad and I would hate to see him fall far enough not to care about that. Even though I never really bought that AWB was talking on the phone to Henry, the only possibility I feel comfortable with is that, first off Bae would have to trust AWB impeccably–like best friend like–to tell him and he only told him about the compelling the dark one, not killing him, because it was a last resort for August. I think it would have torn Bae to tell him that much, but I think that’s as far as he could bring himself to go.
Even if AWB is now turned to wood, he certainly could have relayed info about Bae to the Blue Fairy, or Jefferson (yeah, I believe there’s a connection with Jefferson/Bae/AWB) or even Henry during Operation Cobra. AWB made provisions to make sure that someone knew about Bae’s existence & whereabouts should he not be able to notify him himself.
Wasn’t there rumors of a deleted scene with Jefferson and August that were floating around last season and, correct me if i’m wrong, but didn’t it NOT make it onto the DVD/BluRay? Perhaps this was what they were talking about. I mean if Jefferson was the only NOT evil person who remembered, maybe August was forced to ask him to get the message out, just in case August couldn’t get her to believe in time.
Guys, take a look at this. Tvline.com sat down and freezframed that little clip to come up with as many clues as possible to who he is. Take a look at number 8. It almost seems to guarantee that he’s Bae. And surely, i’m not the only one to think his collection of clocks looks a tad familiar.
Guys, take a look at this. Tvline.com sat down and freezframed that little clip to come up with as many clues as possible to who he is. Take a look at number 8. It almost seems to guarantee that he’s Bae. And surely, i’m not the only one to think his collection of clocks looks a tad familiar.
Let’s start with the present day New York opener with Michael Raymond-James. Does that mean that someone got out of Storybrooke?!
Adam Horowitz: That’s an excellent question. All we can say about his character is that sooner rather than later, you’ll learn a lot more about him. We air nine episodes before we’re scheduled to go off for Christmas break, and within those episodes, you’ll learn a lot more about him and what his role in our larger story is.How do you respond to the theory that he might be Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) father? They do look alike!
Horowitz: I’d say that there’s a lot of theories out there. We love the speculation, but you’re just going to have to watch and see! Henry’s father is someone we will learn about this year well before the finale.Is it just me, or did Horowitz just say the same thing for both questions? I think that just answered who the stranger is (at least part of the way. I guess we still have to wait to see if he is Bae and/or any of the other theroies out there).
I might need to re-watch a second time, but did anyone catch any clues in the opening scenes…perhaps something in his apartment that tipped his identity off?
As far as i know, there was no conformation either way. But i did notice something interesting in the background of his appartment. On the wall as he is comming through the door is a sigh that reads “Cleaners and Hatters.” Or something of the sort. It imeadatly made me think of some connection to Jefferson, but i have no idea what.
because I think they must have gave us knowledge of their magical world for us to know of their world.
really good point. I was just thinking something like that.
The fact that she spent so much time in Tallahassee and still sounds bitter about Henry’s father definitely makes it seem like there was something pretty significant there at one time.
A part of me is really hopeing that Bae will turn out to be Emma’s one true love. It would have a lot of symatry, i mean they are the begining and the end of the curse. And I do like the idea of Henry being a product of true love becaus so wasn’t Emma (and it seems safe to say so weren’t Snow and Charming).
I’ll admit, at first I had a lot of issues with them bringing the outside world in as well, but you’re right. If they just kept it in Storybrook forever, it would be easy to make the storylines a bit dry. Also I think haveing Bae working against the effects of the curse his entire adult life will add another level of tension between him and gold (as if we need anymore, but then again, you can never have too much angst and besides, we don’t want them patching things up too quickly, now do we?) 😉
@slurpeez108, thanks for the link. Now I don’t feel like a few of the people got together here and decided to troll everyone else 😉 .
I am really likeing the idea of BF being more involved then we give her credit for. If Rumple can write something into the curse to give him his memories back when Emma comes to town, why can’t BF have a similar trick up her sleve? Besides, It seems like we would need a Rumple level chess master on the good side to balance it all out.
I’ve been saying for a while that if Rumple can see the future, then we need to see some limits on that. (that’s why I have been such a suporter of the Bae as Henry’s daddy theroy–Rumple got henry for Regina, which means he would have to of not known. And that would have been a BIG mistake on his part). I think it would be interesting after three or four seasons, to realize that there is someone just as sneeky as Rumple who has been pulling strings almost since the begining.
Going a little off topic, has anyone else noticed that the only characters we have seen from other relms have a connection to Regina (she spicificaly brought Jefferson here with a unique punishment and she seems close to Dr. Whale, if he is in fact Frankenstine, given how she sought him for comfort when Henry died–although recent promos may point to the fact that he doesn’t feel the same). And now we are bringing in characters like Hook, who are obviously from a diffrent land.
This kind of leds creedance to the theroy that Bae is also Jack from jack in the beanstalk theory (one that has been–pardon the pun–growing on me ove the last few days).
I read somewhere, i think this thread or possibaly the Bae thread, that this world would seem like the world of gients to someone new to it. And that maybe the Gient was something of a crime lord.
Here’s my take on it.
What if the curse effected all the realms–neverland, wonderland, ect–but only FTL was stuck in storybrook unless Regana made it a point to put someone there (like Jefferson). Now the people in the other worlds are stuck in our world, but outside storybrook like Emma and Augest.
The gient can smell the residual magic left from home on the people (fee, fy, fo, fum, i smell the blood of an english man–anyone else hear that version?) and Bae works with/for him to creat some sort of network/underground railroad type thing to help them out, possibly with BF as their connection inside Storybrook. That’s how they get intouch with Emma, the gient can smell the magic in her blood, but she gives no indication that she knows anything about one of the other worlds.
Maybe here he gets intouch with BF, and she explains who Emma is and asks him to watch over her, maybe a bit like Augest was suposed to. But he realizes that she isn’t ready to beleave, that she won’t without proof and he can’t give her proof without magic, something that isn’t here and he wouldn’t mess with even if it was. He decides to stick by her and they fall in love. (I like to think this is the Tallahise part–when she was talking to MM, it seemed like whatever henry’s dad did really hurt and i don’t think she would let a quasi one night stand get behind her walls enough to let them hurt her that much)
They hang out for a while then Bae has to do something to help someone from another relm, but it involves something illigal. Emma gets caught up in the middle of it but Bae can’t really explain it to her, not without sounding crazy. She gets caught and sent to jail and now she hates him.
What do you guys think?
