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ParticipantAt first I thought it was like a guardian spirit sort of. But then Emma saw it too so the wolf is real. Then he might be somewhere in the Forrest. But then mr Gold said there is no wolf in SB. So it’s a plot hole…
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ParticipantAh I mean he is a trickster. But in Cinderella case, he hadn’t tricked her Yet she fell for the contract immediately. She even promised to do anything. The case that he really tricked someone is Regina. He planned to help her framed MM by killing Kathryn but in the end, he let Kathryn go and things turned back on Regina. Not to mention, he came for her for help (Moe beating trial) first. And trickster here can be understand as an arch type, he rarely trickes as long as I can see but he does twist very much in every deals he has made so far 😉
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ParticipantLol 486
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ParticipantOf course he did it intentionally. He is a trickster, who says he doesn’t? :3
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Participant@myril wrote:
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No matter how desperate you are, giving up your child is unacceptable. Plus these people seem never read or bargain the contracts. Ex: Cinderella-she signed the contract without reading it. She said she will give him anything. Rumple asked again: “anything?”. She said yes. Then it wasn’t really him tricking her right?
Rumple is a trickster. Did he ask her straight? Did he made clear what the bargain was? Rumple knew Cinderella was by no way thinking at that moment, that he might later ask for her first born. Right, Cinderella probably should have asked about every detail including every single word of the fineprint and insist on letting an experienced contract lawyer double-check it. Every 18-years old is already that smart and experienced in life to know that. I’m not saying what she did was right or not naive, all I’m saying is, it’s not simple black and white here, the motive to do what these parents did, wasn’t simple greed, the motives are more complex. Who are we to so easily judge them?
Rumple makes use of people’s desperation, naivety and nescience. A fair deal is something different. And does he really care about the kids? He compensates at best his own guilty feelings, telling himself, he is doing something eventually good. But actually he doesn’t care, he is an opportunist, making use of the parents and their kids and the adopting parents. He is not acting out of any empathy, he’s selfish one way or the other.
I don’t expect her to ask about the details. She didn’t even read the freaking contract. And she agreed that she would give him anything. And that’s the way of life dear. Read before you sign your contract. You can just agree to sign the paper selling your house and then tomorrow, when they come for your house, you said you didn’t read the contract? that they tricked you?
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Participant@myril wrote:
@Gigi wrote:
No matter how desperate you are, giving up your child is unacceptable. Plus these people seem never read or bargain the contracts. Ex: Cinderella-she signed the contract without reading it. She said she will give him anything. Rumple asked again: “anything?”. She said yes. Then it wasn’t really him tricking her right?
Rumple is a trickster. Did he ask her straight? Did he made clear what the bargain was? Rumple knew Cinderella was by no way thinking at that moment, that he might later ask for her first born. Right, Cinderella probably should have asked about every detail including every single word of the fineprint and insist on letting an experienced contract lawyer double-check it. Every 18-years old is already that smart and experienced in life to know that. I’m not saying what she did was right or not naive, all I’m saying is, it’s not simple black and white here, the motive to do what these parents did, wasn’t simple greed, the motives are more complex. Who are we to so easily judge them?
Rumple makes use of people’s desperation, naivety and nescience. A fair deal is something different. And does he really care about the kids? He compensates at best his own guilty feelings, telling himself, he is doing something eventually good. But actually he doesn’t care, he is an opportunist, making use of the parents and their kids and the adopting parents. He is not acting out of any empathy, he’s selfish one way or the other.
I don’t expect her to ask about the details. She didn’t even read the freaking contract. And she agreed that she would give him anything. And that’s the way of life dear. Read before you sign your contract. You can just agree to sign the paper selling your house and then tomorrow, when they come for your house, you said you didn’t read the contract? that they tricked you?
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ParticipantNo, i love all of Belle clothes, except the green blouse and the plaid skirt in child of the moon.
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ParticipantYou’re the one who should get real. What with these blind defenses that’s pretty much your very own assumption and fantasy when the writers and the story line stated very clear that he selfishly took the money for himself and only came back because his legs was hurt. He didn’t search for any FL characters in Phuket. He went there and enjoy the 20 grands, he told Emma that in his centric esp in season 1.
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