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They learned from LOST
They did learn a lot from LOST.
And they brought Damon Linelof in as a consultant for OUAT and refer to him as ‘The Godfather’.OUAT was actually written a pitched to ABC 2 years before LOST’s S1 pilot aired.
ABC turned K&H down.
It was because of LOST’s huge success and cult following that ABC called K&H back and gave OUAT a second chance 🙂[adrotate group="5"]I am very fond of the NL = Pleasure Island idea. It would explain August and Bae, but then you need a way for Jefferson and August to know each other.
I hope we get bigger hints to that in S3.
We do have the screen shots from the deleted scenes of August at Jefferson’s house.
Don’t know how they know each other, but they have def met at some point.Demileto wrote:
I don’t disagree with that, I’m just saying that August and Neal didn’t necessarily need an intermediary to be presented to each other prior to “Tallahasse”.Oh, I get ya 🙂
I meant August being in SB once before in relation to how Jefferson could have known about Emma.
In other words, both theories could work because neither one cancels out the other, while both are good explanations as to how certain characters could have obtained certain info.I’ve theorized – and there’s been good acceptance on this forum to the theory – that Neverland will stand in for the Pleasure Island chapter of Pinocchio’s life. Both the show’s Neverland and Pleasure Island are islands that are apparently the most fun place ever for a child to be but are actually dark and depressing places where you’ll find yourself imprisoned, never to see your family again, it’d be very fitting to have both be the same place in Onceverse and it’d provide a simple and elegant explanation for August knowing who Neal was: he met him in NL before his turn into a real boy, when he was just a wooden puppet. August then would have no problem recognize 23/24 year old Neal as being 14/15 year old Baelfire, but Neal would’ve never guessed the man in front of him was once the 7-year-old wooden puppet he met in NL.
I really need to put this into a thread of its own, kind of hard for people to keep track of it between multiple threads!
I do like the theory that August/Pino went to NL. And it still doesn’t cancel out the fact that he could have been in SB at least once before we saw him arrive.
And, I know what you mean. I posted my theory on here back in December and I find myself posting bits and pieces of it here and there for dif reasons lol 🙂
I still not on board with Jefferson meeting Bae in NL, the rest I kind of agree with.
Someone had to know that Bae was Neal and that he was in NY in order for August to know that.
Regina and Jefferson were the only two with their memories and I don’t think Regina was the one to tell August anything.
Plus, if Jefferson wrote the book, would explain the typewriter that August had and used to convince Neal why he had to leave Emma.
August said he was a writer, but, Pinocchio was good at lying.
I don’t think August was really a writer. I think he got the typewriter from Jefferson when he was in SB the first time around.Except Regina didn’t know how the book ended so how would Jefferson know about ending and what happened to Emma
In 7:15 am, Regina says to Emma that August looks familiar.
I don’t recall Regina having any contact with young Pinocchio pre – curse and, even if she did, adult Pinocchio doesn’t look anything like he did when he was little.
So, why does August look familiar to Regina?
I think it’s because he visited SB at least once before we know of (when we see him arrive in True North)
I think he was there 10 years prior (before he went to NY) and talked to Jefferson.
I think August told Jefferson about Emma, him and the wardrobe and Jefferson told August about about Neal being Bae (because I think Jefferson, at some point before the curse, realm jumped to NL and met up with Bae and Bae told Jefferson his story).
Again, all part of why I think Jefferson wrote the book 🙂Question: How did Jefferson know about Belle in the basement of the Hospital?
I think Regina told him.
It is part of my theory about Jefferson being the one to write the book.
Not only did he collect stories from diff realms, Regina told him things.
That’s how he knew stuff and how some of the stuff in the book ended up in there…..it came straight from Regina.
We saw how monotonous things were for Regina….that’s partly why she wanted Owen and Kurt to stay.
She ended up adopting Henry, but there are 18 years between the time of Owen and Kurt and when she finally got Henry.
She needed someone to talk to and Jefferson had his memories.If they did this in Lost what is the answer then Dead or Alive?
I didn’t mean that line, specifically.
I was refering to the fact that they choose their words carefully – for the script and when they do interviews.
I always try to read between the lines.
They even had Emma say that to Regina. – “I can read between the lines”. (Eps, 2, S1, I think)Interesting idea Gypsy! Not sure if I’m completely sold because it may just be too painful for him so he relates it to what his little girl lost instead but until they say we can’t take much for granted at all.
Exactly, take nothing for granted.
They said she was ‘lost’ and not ‘dead’ for a reason.
I just feel like Jefferson referring to her as ‘Grace’s mother’ was said for a reason, too.They did this all the time on LOST.
What they say and how they say it may make a difference in the meaning of what they are saying.I often wondered if Grace’s mother was in fact Jefferson’s wife.
Maybe she wasn’t his wife.
Maybe Jefferson isn’t Grace’s real father, but took care of her because he felt obligated to because he felt responsibble for Grace losing her mother.
What makes me think this is, he says that’s how Grace lost her mother (referring to his job/realm jumpimg).
He doesn’t say that’s how I lost my wife, or how I lost my true love….he speifically refers to her as “Grace’s mother”.
