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ParticipantI like that theory too Ranisha. đ
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ParticipantSlurp – Wow, that essay is amazing and also a great explanation of why I don’t care for Hook right now. It’s a sad state for this world IMO that so many people think he’s romantic, sexy, honorable, and charming right now when really he isn’t any of those things if you look at his own history on the show. The saddest part of it is they could have done SO much more with him and left the whole Triangle of Doom out of it. Massive missed opportunity for E&A here and no one will ever convince me otherwise that in some ways, maybe not in their overall arc but in some ways, they are totally pandering to the fans with his story right now and you should NEVER do that with any television show because you will never make everyone happy. Hopefully I’m proven wrong and things will improve on this front in the back half of S3 but it may be a long journey for us to get to that point if they keep this up.
/end rant
*BIG MRJ GROUP HUGS TO EVERYONE* (just because, like RG said) đ
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ParticipantUsually I like reading the TV Fantatic round table discussions about previous episodes but this one was SO blatantly pro CS (from some alleged former SF shippers too) that I had to comment on the article which I HATE doing because I just get a lot of crap from people. I just can’t take this stuff anymore and I wish the media would stop feeding the CS trolls (who are thankfully not anyone on this site…I hope!). Here’s what I wrote…
I usually like reading these round table discussions but after this one, I’m just tired of the media types putting their own agendas into their articles. If you were truly on the SwanFire train, you wouldn’t have jumped off after one episode. Passion, chemistry, electricity…those things ALL fade over time and cannot be the basis for any real relationship. Emma has a bigger connection to Neal that goes much deeper than that stuff and good gracious, Neal has had more crap happen to him than any other character on the show and he has NOT cried because he’s not a crier. He’s always kept it all inside and you can easily tell on his face how broken up he is over losing his family. The theme of the whole episode was hope and he was the only one to not say goodbye to Henry & Emma because he has hope that their story isn’t over yet. There may be some CS stuff coming up but I still believe that she and Neal will end up together in the end. Sorry if I offend anyone w/this but I feel like Neal and SF shippers get crapped on all the time and I just had to say something today. #HopeforSwanFire
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Participantheatherc1275 wrote: People who are still harping about Nealâs âlack of emotionâ in the show were clearly not watching the same show as me because I saw a man completely and totally broken but doing everything he could not to fall apart. The pain in his eyes and eventually on the rest of his face was totally evident to me. How can people not see that?! Not everyone cries at the drop of a hat like yours truly
Agreed. Iâm actually starting to get a little offended with people over this. I donât do the crying jag thing over a lot. When Iâm truly devastated, something bad has really happenedâŚI shut down utterly and completely. It doesnât mean I donât feel anythingâŚit means I feel too much.
Yeah, people do NOT react the same way over traumatizing events and for people to be vilifying Neal for how he reacted is ridiculous. He’s been on the show for a year and a half now and while he’s had his emo moments, he’s never actually all out cried (unlike Belle and I agree that the contrast was striking on purpose) so it would have been way out of character for him to do so now. I have relatives who are the same as you RG, they don’t show outward emotions much at all, but you know they’re upset and that’s totally Neal. People are just annoying me in general over OUAT lately but this is one that needs to stop because it’s really becoming over the top and annoying.
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Participantheatherc1275 wrote: BTW-The random tools on the internet who are finding more sympathy and feeling sorry for Hook right now and not feeling bad for Neal, you knowâŚthe guy who literally lost his father, his son, and the woman he loves more than anything within a span of about twenty minutes, need a SERIOUS reality check. I canât even comprehend that mindset and I want to reach through the computer and strangle some of them. ARGH!!!
(Seriously, why do we not have a sobbing smiley here??!)
WORD! Even if you donât love Neal as a character, if you donât think heâs got plenty to be devastated about right now, youâre being sort of heartless. Testing the crying emoticon that should be available:
ETA: OK it didnât work. But itâs not really sufficient anyway, because itâs just a calm little weep, and really we need something like thisâŚ
EATA that OK, it DID work, but it didnât show up the first time I submitted my post. *kicking it* Anyway, just type â: cry :â without the spaces.
I’m glad we have the little one available but I like the bigger one better because it fits my emotions this week! I’m still not totally recovered from that winter finale but I’m looking at the bright side now….that could easily have been our SEASON finale and then we’d have to wait all summer for the show to come back! đŽ
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ParticipantI’m totally exhausted after a long day of working both of my jobs yesterday but coming here and seeing/reading all the wonderful things you guys have posted makes my heart happy this morning. Thanks for brightening my day! đ
Thank you also for posting the wonderful Neal in FT land clothing picture again because that always makes me smile. He does look regal in that gear and I can’t get enough of that pic! I’ve decided there are three things I need to see in FT land for Neal and if they don’t happen, I will be extremely upset. First, Neal absolutely needs to be taken in by the Charmings because they truly are family and I think they can provide true comfort and love to each other after losing their loved ones. I can’t remember who wrote this but I also love the thought of him telling Snow & Charming about their daughter and sharing stories about their time together with them. Two, Neal and Belle need to form some sort of bond over losing Rumple because they’re probably alone in how much pain they’re feeling over losing him. None of the others have that type of relationship with him so they need to rely on each other and I really need to see this happen for them. Three, Neal and Hook NEED to have talked about things non Emma related and gotten to a somewhat better point in their relationship. It’s ridiculous at this point how much their past has been ignored and I really want to see that they’re in a good place there or at least that they’ve come to some sort of understanding. I’m not going to lie…I’m a little concerned that all the character development we got for several people in the NL arc is going to be obliterated with this new arc by them switching gears and heading into more of an ‘action’ type of story. I hope I’m wrong though!
People who are still harping about Neal’s ‘lack of emotion’ in the show were clearly not watching the same show as me because I saw a man completely and totally broken but doing everything he could not to fall apart. The pain in his eyes and eventually on the rest of his face was totally evident to me. How can people not see that?! Not everyone cries at the drop of a hat like yours truly. đ
BTW-The random tools on the internet who are finding more sympathy and feeling sorry for Hook right now and not feeling bad for Neal, you know…the guy who literally lost his father, his son, and the woman he loves more than anything within a span of about twenty minutes, need a SERIOUS reality check. I can’t even comprehend that mindset and I want to reach through the computer and strangle some of them. ARGH!!! đ (Seriously, why do we not have a sobbing smiley here??!)
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ParticipantSlurpeez108 wrote: Thanks for sharing! Those photos suggest that Sean mightâve been filming with Emilie and MRJ recently! I would love it if Robin Hood helped out his old pals, Neal and Belle, in their quest to find Rumple again!
I have decided Nealfire and Robin Hood are going to be BEST FRIENDS. FireHood BROTP!
This has to happen and I think it actually might too! Robin Hood is still there in Rumple’s castle where Neal and Belle may decide to go when they first arrive in the EF. Please happen! đ đ đ đ đ
That’s an adorable pic of Sean and MRJ! đ
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Participantheatherc1275 wrote: I really want a MRJ hug.
They are just so snuggly!!!!!
I know!!! That’s why I want one! đ
And I like that you’re thinking along the same lines as I am RG although that might be scary if we’re starting to share thoughts and ideas because my brain gets a little crazy sometimes and I don’t wish that on my friends, LOL đ
Off to retail heck I go soon….SAVE ME GUYS!!!! đ
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ParticipantThat picture of MRJ with the hook and Jen laughing is one of my favorite pics ever! She does always talk about how much he makes her laugh and knowing now how emotional those scenes were for everyone, I bet this funny moment was SO needed by everyone in the cast that day! đ đ đ đ đ
I really want a MRJ hug. đ
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ParticipantSlurpeez108 wrote: Now that Emma and Henry are cursed to have no memories of Storybrooke or the Enchanted Forest, Iâm wondering what Emma named her son. At the end of 3Ă11, we only heard Emma call him âkid.â I would expect the name Henry Mills no longer to exist, because that was the name he got when Regina adopted him. By contrast, Emma would probably have given him a different name and he would have the last name Swan now. I wonder what Henryâs new given name would be!
In my head, when Regina gave Emma new memories she ensured that Emma would have named her son Henry. And she would still be Emma Swan, right? She was Emma Swan in Tallahassee, when she introduced herself to Neal. So Iâm betting itâs Henry Swan. (Henry Neal SwanâŚ:))
I hope the writers kept his name as Henry because otherwise that’s going to get really confusing! Pondering: Could the guy we’re supposed to meet in the next episode, the Chris Gorman character, be a foster brother or a best friend or parole officer, I don’t know, someone important for Emma that she met around the time she had Henry and possibly could have named him after because he helped her put her life together again? If that’s the case, then both of them being named Henry, we heard chatter around the time of filming that his character was going by the name Henry, makes a little more sense in the story and keeps continuity for the character while also giving Emma a friend to be with her as she tackled single motherhood. In my head cannon, this guy is like a brother to her (even if he isn’t an actual foster brother) and could easily be dropped back into the story later if Emma needs his help with something related to the WWW in Storybrooke (this would fit with them saying he could appear again later in S3).
I just thought of something else that I’d like to see happen in S3 pt.2. In my random head cannon for Neal in NYC, I’ve always thought that he put his life together again and created his life there with the hope that someday he’d be able to reunite with Emma and have them be together there. He always wanted to provide a home for them so this was a chance for him to show her that they could have a life together there. Dare we hope that maybe he’s been doing the same thing in the Enchanted Forest for this last year and creating a home for them there? He all ready believes that he’ll see them both again and if he worked hard to create a life in NYC for her, why wouldn’t he try to do the same for both her and Henry in the EF? I don’t know if I explained it very well but hey, it’s in my head and my head is not in that great of a place overall. đ I feel like I really need to see this happen now and it’s not even officially part of any story yet….let my therapy bills begin, LOL đ
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