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Hmm, I just reread that wonderful MRJ interview that OUAFan did near the end of last season and something that was said in it kind of applies to the show right now and pardon me that I haven’t figured out how to quote yet so I’m just copying and pasting the part into a new paragraph. Someday I’ll figure this board out, LOL 😆
Diane: Do you think Neal seeing Rumpel be so vulnerable with Belle, and then also August being willing to sacrifice himself before he dies—did those events change or shift your character at all? To decide to be more vulnerable? Or has that always been a vein in Neil?
Michael Raymond-James: I think that’s always been a vein in his character. Those sorts of moments can inspire a sleeping giant inside people. They allow for something that’s always been there, but has long since been put away in a box for the purpose of self-preservation. The capacity that people have to endure is amazing. But sometimes one must come up with coping mechanisms, and that certainly could be one of Neal’s. But when you see these moments of sacrifice or human tenderness or kindness, it inspires those aspects of ourselves to wake up a little bit.
Pardon me while I ramble now but I think Neal was completely in that preservation mode when we met him in Manhattan and while wonderful bits of that vulnerability are starting to come out, I fear he may start reverting back into that self preservation mode that he was in for so many years while dealing with this whole Emma-Hook thing, Henry’s kidnapping, and also with his father. He seems to all ready be doing that now and shifting his focus onto Henry (which makes sense since that should be priority #1 for everyone right now) and IMO, I think that mode is probably part of the reason he and Emma fell in love in the first place. They both do that (those walls go up fast) because of their lonely and hard lives and while they didn’t really know everything about each other’s pasts (obviously Neal wasn’t going to tell Emma about FT land and Emma didn’t even know her true past at that point), I imagine that each of them sharing bits of their pain was a powerful thing for the other and helped cement this bond that they still have with each other. They were probably each other’s first real friend and with all the little glances and nuances that we keep seeing now, it’s becoming painfully obvious to me that these two people need to sit and TALK again. She really needs to hear his side of the story about his father, his time in Neverland, Hook turning him over to PP, the Darlings (hoping we get some of that this weekend), and where he’s been in the years since he left her. My fear is that we’re never going to get that sort of thing while they keep ramping up all the action stuff and we won’t get that wonderful story between these two lost kids. JMo and MRJ have proven they can handle all that emotional stuff without a lot of action around them (hello Manhattan…my favorite episode of the entire series) so I’m trying to hold onto hope that this stuff is still coming because if they gloss over it, I am going to be one unhappy camper. I still believe in SwanFire, I’m going down with this ship too, but it’s the little moments in between that I feel like they’re missing and that’s getting annoying for me.
I have NO CLUE if anything I just wrote makes sense (you guys are way better this than me, LOL) but I’m bored at work and felt like rambling so there you go. That whole interview is all kinds of awesome BTW if you haven’t read it in a while. I love MRJ more and more every single day! 😀
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#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantI’m super excited about this weekend’s episode but me and my whole two quarters of Marketing classes could do a better job with promoting these shows than anyone at ABC has done the last two years. OY.VEY. 😮
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275Participanthttp://miss880.tumblr.com/post/66726864921/after-neal-finds-out-about-wendy-being-in “Miss 88o” posted this on tumblr. Oh the feeeeels… Poor Neal. He has been so selfless his entire life.
After Neal finds out about Wendy being in Neverland. After Neal finds out about his sacrifice being for nothing and Pan destroyed the Darlings lives anyway, I want a scene where he breaks down a little bit over that fact that he’s made three major sacrifices in his life – trying to get Rumple to leave magic, going with the shadow for the Darlings, and leaving Emma – and all those decisions had major repercussions on all their lives. And all of their happiness. (And has basically been the driving force for the whole damn series. Seriously.) And I want Emma to be there for Neal in that scene. And I want this to be the moment where they start to heal, and Emma starts to fully comprehend Neal’s side of the story. Not forgiving and forgetting, they have a lot of work to do, but this will be a huge moment for the future. It could be a great scene about never giving up. About hope.
YES. YES. A THOUSAND TIMES, YES. That has been on my mind since last night. I think that Neal is going to be devastated to find out what happened to Wendy and her brothers and he’s going to be adamant about helping them along with saving Henry. And just maybe the Darling family is going to be the Triangle of Doom’s great equalizer that I think we’re all looking for in this thing. It seems like everything is going Hook’s way right now (including that whole ignoring all the crap he’s done thing that OUAT seems to be doing which is very annoying) but Neal in his own subtle way is making all the right choices with regards to Emma & Henry and I think seeing his reaction to that family’s plight and the fact that his sacrifice didn’t keep them from being hurt after all, might be the thing that wakes Emma up to the man that Neal really is inside. I agree that things shouldn’t be easy between them but she DESPERATELY needs to see things from Neal’s perspective and realize that he’s been hurting for a long time too. I don’t want to dismiss her feelings because goodness knows Emma deserves a case of Jack Daniels after everything that’s happened in her life, but she NEEDS to understand Neal’s life, all the sacrifices, the pain, the abandonment, the heartbreak, the loneliness, and realize that he’s not some type of monster. He’s been through his own stuff too and if they really want to tell a story of hope, they NEED to get these two characters into an understanding about their lives. There’s a lot Emma doesn’t know yet and this is a big one that she needs to know while they’re in Neverland. DO IT WRITERS. Don’t let us down about this one! 😮
BTW-I can’t take ABC and their marketing crap anymore (don’t get me started on that press release) so I sent this tweet to Adam:
@AdamHorowitz No spoilers but are you guys seriously going to ignore Hook’s bad choices/lies & continue to persecute Neal all season? =( (And yes, I used the unhappy frown face in my tweet) We’ll see if he answers. He’s answered me before, not too long ago actually, so maybe he’ll give us a little hint of things to come that won’t be so one sided. That would be nice to hear. Someone please stop me from sending a very nasty tweet to the official OUAT twitter because I’ve been fighting that all evening.
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantHey everyone I’m Katie. I’m new here My friend Heather (I think you guys know her as HeatherC1275) pointed me in the direction of this forum as safe place to come and talk about my love for Once and of course Swanfire! So here I am! I’m really looking forward to chatting with everyone and sharing views about the show.
Hi Katie!!!! 😀 I’m so glad to see you posting here and now I have to ask you a question…how long did it take you to read this whole thread!? 😉 I’m guessing a while but I bet it was pretty fun too! I am SO happy that you’re finally here where you can express your SF adoration in more than 140 characters! Twitter can be great but sometimes it’s so darn restricting, LOL 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantPREACH Y’ALL. *fist bumps and hugs all around* 😀
If someone could please make some type of GIF combining the Triangle of Doom with Princess Jasmine screaming at her father and Aladdin that she “is not a prize to be won!!”, I will give them an entire box of cookies and much gratitude because I can’t get that scene out of my head after last night’s episode. 🙂
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantRumplesGirl wrote: And she said “look at this stuff!” when she was in the shop. I about died.
Hands up if you sang “isn’t it neat?” as soon as she said that line? *puts up hand*
Haha, I did that too! Glad I’m not the only one who immediately got that song in my head, LOL 😆
Loved Ariel and Belle in this episode and I hope we get to see more of them together. 🙂
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantI have to head to bed because it’s getting late here but I COMPLETELY agree with everything that’s all ready been written here. I just ranted hardcore on Twitter about how my initial reactions to the Emma/Neal/Hook scenes (short version: Neal’s awesome, Hook’s a d-bag) and I’m going to try really hard to avoid the comments sections of the OUAT recaps tomorrow. I’ve all ready seen one person talk about how romantic Hook was and I nearly threw up in my mouth. I don’t want a guy to ever talk to me that way! How is giving a woman an ultimatum romantic??! OMG. I’m gonna need a LOT of cookies for the next few weeks. *bangs head on wall* 🙁
I wanted to second all the earlier comments about how wonderful this group seems to be here in our little SwanFire haven. I feel like I can be myself and just say anything here and no one will judge me or put me down about it (actually, this whole forum seems to be that way but I do spend most of my time in this thread) and I have REALLY needed that thanks to the writers and their Triangle of Doom. Big *HUGS*to this entire group because I think we’re all going to need them! 😮
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantThat Tumblr post needs to be reposted everywhere, framed with platinum, diamond studded, yelled at to every single fan who uses that work incorrectly, and married to everyone in this thread. Absolutely BRILLIANT. <3 🙂
I am highly bummed that I won't get to watch OUAT until later tonight but hopefully there's some really good stuff there to make my long wait worth it. 😀
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantYAY that I don’t need therapy! Well, at least for this…I probably do for other things though, LOL 😆
I watched the sneak peak (I think it took me about 2.5 minutes to decide to watch it so clearly my emotions are also crazy thanks to Neverland 😉 ) and I agree that I want to hug Neal like WHOA and I can’t decide if it was done maliciously or not. It’s hard to tell from the clip but seriously, can MRJ be more awesome with how he uses his eyes to convey Neal’s emotions?! Wow. I am beyond impressed with him this year (and I loved him last year too). He’s done this with Neal all season from his disappointment in how cowardly he acted instead of going to find Emma after the curse broke, to his anxiety at finding out she was in Neverland, his anger and frustration with his father, his hopeful face when he found the group’s campground and knew that Emma had been there, his sadness and understanding at Emma’s confession to him, his determination to do the right thing now and fight for Emma no matter what, and now his eyes conveying so much in the sneak peak…dang, I just love this guy more and more every single week. I love the fact that Neal isn’t perfect. I love that he’s ADMITTED he isn’t perfect and that he’s made big time mistakes. I love that he threw himself full bore into being a father for Henry. I love that he never held it against Emma that she didn’t tell him about Henry. I LOVE that he didn’t think twice about returning to Neverland to help save Emma & Henry even though it’s a place that holds no good memories for him. I love how self sacrificing he has always been and how much he cares for other people. The fact that people can’t see those things just makes me shake my head with wonder because it’s all pretty darn obvious to me.
BTW-Someone on Twitter today said something like they couldn’t wait for OUAT to go back to before they were focusing on the pirate with a drinking problem and a deadbeat dad. Count that as another one that I don’t understand if she’s talking about Neal…how could he be a dad at all if Emma never told him about Henry?! From the moment she told him he was Henry’s father, he’s been GREAT with him and not at all a deadbeat dad. Does she understand what that term actually means?! I have a deadbeat dad who was barely around for me after my parents got divorced when I was 2.5 years old (and still isn’t around now 30+ years later) so this just IRKED ME TO KINGDOM COME that she said that about Neal. I hope she wasn’t talking about him but I think she was and that’s not right. I agree that this show is about way more than the triangle though and hopefully they don’t forget about everyone else even though the media is propping up this triangle like there’s no one else on the show. *rolleyes* 🙁 /end rant
#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275ParticipantI’m debating whether or not to watch that new sneak peak tonight. I have another Broadway show downtown tomorrow night and won’t get to see the show until after I get home (I have four more of these shows on Sunday nights but the others aren’t until 2014). I hate being surprised by things like this so I may have to watch it so I’m not overly surprised tomorrow.
I refuse to lose hope in SwanFire because of things happening in Neverland and because I’ve always thought Emma & Neal’s road back to each other would be a rough one. I’ve never expected them to just fall back into each other’s arms and everything go perfect right off the bat. It’s gotta be a journey with ups, downs, heartbreaks, warm moments, fights, tears, dark times, happiness….that’s what makes a great love story and I’m still holding onto the hope that this is where Adam & Eddy are going with things. There’s way too much all ready there for them to just disregard everything and go a totally different direction. Nothing is an accident! 🙂
BTW-You guys have posted several videos from my friend Katie in this thread (her username is MsKTProductions on You Tube and she does AMAZING SwanFire videos). Well, she’s been dealing with a ton of horrible stuff out on Twitter/Tumblr/Social Media in general lately so I posted the link to this board and the thread here so she can hopefully find her new SwanFire safe haven. Hopefully she’ll read all the great stuff that you guys have posted, eventually register on the forum, and start to post soon! She’s an awesome person and a BIG TIME SwanFire supporter and I think you guys will like her a lot. Come here soon Katie!! 😀
BTW #2-That pic I posted a few pages back is now the background on my phone. I love that every time I do anything on my phone now I see Neal giving Emma that wonderful hug! <3 😀 (Do I need therapy for admitting this factoid?! LOL)
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