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Participant@Josephine I’m more amused that you and I were running around with baseball bats in Rainbow’s dream especially since we’ve met in real life because I now have this picture in my head of you and I running around Kennywood with our bats telling everyone to get out of our way so we can ride Phantom’s Revenge and Exterminator before everyone else, LOL 😉
I think I need more sleep. 😉
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ParticipantHAHA!!! Rainbow, your dream has got to be the most random and hilarious thing I’ve read all week! Thanks for making me laugh this morning and I’m sorry you were slightly traumatized by it, LOL 😉
Random: I posted a slight variation of that huge CF-OUAT meta that I posted here the other day to my Tumblr page so we’ll see how people react to it. I wasn’t sure if I was going to do it or not but last night I was just like, “Why not, it’s my blog and I feel like letting people know how I feel about things” and posted it there anyway. It’s the first time I’ve ever posted my own writing anywhere besides in here so I’m not sure how it will go over out there. We’ll see I guess! 😮
Happy Thursday y’all. It’s SHONDALAND DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal, How to Get Away w/Murder) 😀

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ParticipantOnyx – Love the bison trinkets!! I have my two flat magnets on my shelf unit at work and my little bison head magnet is on my new magnetic/cork board/dry erase board that’s on the wall over my desk. I love that we all have these little trinkets! 🙂
Tumblr isn’t so bad if you only follow blogs of things that interest you. I haven’t had too many problems over there yet although I might have to unfollow a few people there who are obvious Neal fans but are still watching OUAT and will probably be posting stuff from the new season. I don’t need that crap on my feed. 😮
*ponders posting her huge meta with the CF-OUAT comparison on Tumblr later tonight*

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ParticipantThanks for the kind words RG! I guess I did make some sense after all, LOL 😉
BTW-Chicago Fire scored a 2.7 (9.4 million viewers) rating last night in a TOUGH time slot so WOOT WOOT for them!! Selfishly hoping now that OUAT’s ratings are way below that this weekend…and yes I know that’s mean but I want to see the good shows rewarded and crappy ones falter. What’s wrong with that?! 😀

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ParticipantSo I’m still a bit of an emotional wreck from Chicago Fire last night (they killed off a main character and it was horrifically sad at times during the hour, so much that I think I’m still dehydrated from all the crying, LOL) but sitting here catching up on the thread today, I’m thinking about how different this show and OUAT have handled character deaths and once again, OUAT comes out way short. I’m gonna try to type out some things right now but if they don’t make sense please just tell me because I do have a headache from last night and can barely function today. I need to stop getting so emotional over things but then I wouldn’t be me and you guys would all ditch me in a heartbeat, LOL 😉
Anyway, we learned early on for both shows that the stakes were pretty high as far as getting hurt or surviving when crazy things happen but it doesn’t seem like OUAT really cares much about that anymore while Chicago Fire totally raised the stakes last night. Both shows have killed off main characters but have we really ever been allowed to grieve much for anyone on OUAT? We got what, one episode to grieve Graham, no episodes to grieve or process when the bad guys die (which makes sense although we did see some of Regina’s reactions to losing her mom), minor characters are only mentioned when it’s necessary for PLOT, and we barely got two minutes to say goodbye to Neal, a freaking main character who’s been around in some way, shape or form, since season one (grrrr….). They also have brought too many people back to life in various ways which cheapens death and gives false hope to people who think another character might be coming back someday (RIP Neal…the writers will never bring you back no matter how hard we hope). They seem too focused on moving to the next toy out of the box rather than dealing with human emotions when bad things happen and that’s making the show feel unreal and heartless. You brought these characters into the real world and yet they don’t seem interested in actually having them REACT to real world things. The show has lost it’s punch for raising the stakes and now no one believes it when someone dies because “everyone comes back on this show at some point”.
Chicago Fire on the other hand, killed off a guy in the PILOT episode and we still hear things about him over two years later. He wasn’t just a blip on the radar; he was family to the firehouse and you don’t ever forget family (Ohana…oh look at that, I’m gonna blend these two things together and make myself cry all over again..). They’ve even mentioned some of the smaller deaths from people who weren’t as important on the show and showed how those events affected the core cast. Last night they actually killed off a major character in that explosion from the end of S2, a character who’s been there since the pilot, and it wasn’t just glossed over with a fake funeral and more plot. They took us through the characters grief, pain, coping mechanisms, and just dealing with LIFE in general. I’ll spoiler this out for anyone who hasn’t watched yet or who might watch in the future…the person they killed was Leslie Shay, the main paramedic, Gabriella Dawson’s best friend and main male lead, Kelly Severide’s best friend/roommate…she was the other paramedic on the show, and his/her death affected everyone in the house in different ways. Some were able to cope by learning from the deceased’s desire to always live life to the fullest and they decided to take a big risk with something else in their lives (in this case, franchising Molly’s, the main bar on the show), one guy coped by focusing on everyone else’s well being in order for him to handle his own grief (he’s lost a lot of loved ones so it’s hard for him to cope all ready), the one best friend had survivor’s guilt because they switched places right before the explosion and felt that they should have died instead of who actually did, and the roommate of course isn’t handling anything very well at all. The biggest takeaway from this entire premiere? IT WASN’T WRAPPED UP IN ONE HOUR. It’s an ongoing story of how they all deal with losing a family member in their house. Death is supposed to affect you, it’s supposed to make you cry and feel sad, and it’s not supposed to be easy to get past and Chicago Fire understands that better than any other show out there (and I watch quite a variety of TV so I feel okay saying this). This story isn’t over in less than an hour…it’s going to keep playing out through S3 and that’s how it should be. Does anyone actually get over the death of someone close to you in a few days?!
I know the nature of these two shows are slightly different with one being about first responders and one being a random fantasy show set in our world but early on they both established that stakes would be high for their characters and OUAT is failing miserably at actually showing that lately. Does anyone care if someone dies on OUAT? Could have fooled me because everyone seems to get over it pretty quickly (in Neal’s case it was less than one episode). Do people care when someone dies on Chicago Fire? Heck yeah. The show is obviously not glossing over it and I’ve seen a lot of fans mad enough that they don’t want to watch anymore. Hopefully that’s just their anger talking because the show isn’t going to fall apart because one person is gone….their point to this event was to show how life moves on after a tragedy. OUAT isn’t taken seriously anymore because they’ve changed their stakes and what their show is all about (what hope is there anymore if you’re not evil or the LI of an evil person?) while Chicago Fire understands that their fans want to be taken on a journey but also that the job this family does has huge risks and you never know what could happen to anyone. It makes it more exciting to watch and I find myself way more emotionally invested in the characters because they understand their risks too and aren’t afraid to TALK to each other, tell each other the important things, or do good things to help other people because others have helped them in the past.
I really don’t know if I actually made a point with this post but I felt like writing it all out after last night’s emo journey on CF and it really helps show why I gave up OUAT. The bad writing is the main culprit for it (that and the disregard for Neal fans by the two trolls) but I’m just not emotionally invested in these people anymore and the bad writing is part of that since it’s made so many of them pod!people now. I liked that the fantasy was rooted in real life back in S1 but they’ve lost that now and it’s been replaced by a world that’s not enjoyable for me to visit and has no reality left in it anymore. This week is like a mourning week for me as I think about what OUAT used to be and what it is now and that makes me cry almost as much as I did last night watching CF. So much potential wasted for so many stupid reasons. 🙁
BTW-Happy Hump Day. I need more ibuprofen. 😮

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ParticipantI have internet!!! I feel like I’ve missed so much! Has the first ep aired yet?
WELCOME BACK!!! *HUGS* 🙂
Show hasn’t aired yet. It starts this coming Sunday night. You still have time to brace yourself and prepare for the mockfest that will be coming in spades for sure, LOL 😉
And as someone who loved Graham from the moment she saw him on the show, and especially if I can’t have Neal back for Emma, I can fully support Slurpeez’s story idea to have him be back on the show again. They had a wonderful chemistry and I think they would have been great together. 🙂

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ParticipantHappy Tuesday or as I like to call it, CHICAGO FIRE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀

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ParticipantTake all the time away that you need Text and please take good care of yourself. We’re all here for you no matter what and please remember that we love you bunches. Sending lots of good vibes and support your way!! *HUGS* 🙁

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ParticipantCan I just ask a general question? Does everyone here actually think Frozen was that spectacular? I liked the music, and I thought the ending of the film was a nice one, but…..I didn’t think the character development was all that stellar, nor did I really like the plot. I think I just don’t really get what’s considered popular now.
I liked it well enough. I liked some of the subversions of the fairy tale trope, like making fun of true love and love at first sight. Mostly Olaf was the best thing about it though.
RG – I cannot wait to read your articles!!!
Just to clarify, I’ll be doing the “here’s what should have happened” here at in our haven. But I will be revewing the premiere for my job, and then my own personal TV blog will have a review each week.
Thanks for the update but I’m gonna read it no matter where it’s posted because I really enjoy reading your articles! 😀
BTW-Remember the days when a TV Line article previewing what’s coming up on OUAT would generate like 100+ comments (you know, like the one for S3 did last year)? Yeah, the one that was posted last night currently has 31 comments. My how the mighty have fallen. 😉
*sends big Olaf warm hugs to everyone in this thread* 🙂

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantCan I just ask a general question? Does everyone here actually think Frozen was that spectacular? I liked the music, and I thought the ending of the film was a nice one, but…..I didn’t think the character development was all that stellar, nor did I really like the plot. I think I just don’t really get what’s considered popular now.
I liked it as far as it being a decent overall movie but it was no The Lion King or Mulan for me where I got extra emotional from the power of the stories and can still watch them over and over again without them getting old at all. I did buy Frozen on DVD but mainly for the music which I did enjoy and the fact that it was on a massive sale at Target. 😉 I don’t know why everyone is holding onto that movie so much since it’s not Disney’s best one ever but I think it’s going to backfire hardcore on OUAT because the more random comments I read or people I talk to, the more I find out just how many of them are annoyed that Frozen was brought into the story. 😮
RG – I cannot wait to read your articles!!! 😀

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