[heatherc1275]

heatherc1275 wrote:

Ok, this post here might explain how I randomly saw “Howdy RumplesGirl” in the far right corner of my screen instead of my own username about five minutes ago, LOL

Omg. how many of me were there??????? It was freaky

No clue but it was rather entertaining to see the wrong name up there! I was like, “WTH, did RG take over my computer screen without me knowing it??!” LOL 😉

[heatherc1275]

TESTING okay good, we’re back.

Ok, this post here might explain how I randomly saw “Howdy RumplesGirl” in the far right corner of my screen instead of my own username about five minutes ago, LOL 😉

Those GIF sets are giving me major feels today. I think everyone in the world just wants to love someone and be loved in return. It’s a basic human need and the fact that he so rarely had that in his life kills me. Neal basically died still feeling alone in the world even though he was with Emma and Rumple at the time. He was losing the only family he’d ever really known and didn’t even get a chance to see his son again. The fact that Emma and Rumple didn’t even TRY to do anything to save him breaks my heart. It’s also the only time on this entire show that we’ve seen Neal break down and cry. I will never be over the horrible way they treated Nealfire for this entire series and then for them to have the gall to end his life that way, that’s still unfathomable and unforgiveable to me. 😥

/end rant  (I am getting some much needed retail therapy tomorrow….God bless Vera Bradley and their annual outlet sale!!)

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[heatherc1275]

Soooo, I started writing out the details of my end of season headcanon…and it sorta became a four page fanfic thing? I’m not a “writer” by any means, it’s rather pedestrian in style, but yeah, anyway, at least now if it doesn’t happen on the show, it still totally happened because I wrote it. (Never attached a file to a post before, so let’s see if this works.)

@Phee’s head canon for the win!!!! I LOVE IT. Thanks for sharing it with us and ignore my request on Twitter to read this someday since I had no idea that you’d all ready posted it here when I tweeted you, LOL 😉

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[heatherc1275]

I have been lurking for a long time. Lol Thanks RG!

Welcome to the insanity! We’re a pretty fun group when we’re not emotionally scarred and trying to understand and make sense of everything. I loved reading your first post and look forward to seeing more of you here! *hands out more cookies and hot cocoa* 😀

Darn you guys and your Lost connections giving me hope again too! I SAID I wasn’t going to do that….stop trying to change me, darn it, LOL 😉

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Stop whatever you are doing and read this It’s Not Easy Being Someone’s Gateway To Redemption

GAH. I read that earlier this morning and it’s amazing. She hits SO many awesome points and there’s so much truth to every single thing in it. It honestly hurts to read because it’s so true. 🙁

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heatherc1275 wrote:

What if they’re not actually undoing their own timeline but undoing something Zelena did before they even got back to the EF in 3×11? Zelena is pretty powerful in her own right and maybe when Regina was undoing her own curse, Z was able to set her own plan in motion, in effect giving them the WRONG timeline in the first place so she could enact her actual plan. It’s way farfetched but these are the guys who worked on Lost. In this scenario, them defeating her and righting the story would actually put them back on their RIGHT timeline and then Neal would live since he wasn’t supposed to die in the first place. I don’t know. That’s probably reaching but it could happen (dude, these guys made a BABY have magical powers in this last episode….anything is possible at this point) and it would actually explain why this season feels so manic and different compared to the other ones. We’ve all talked about how this is the season of misdirection….this is one way that this could actually be explained. Meh, this is a total crack theory for sure so why am I even writing it down, LOL

So…they’re undoing what Zelena undid in order to get back t Timeline A, which is the proper and correct timeline. Well. That’s LOST S5 in a nutshell.

heatherc1275 wrote:

BTW-I don’t think it was MRJ who wanted to leave the show. I think ABC wanted MRJ to leave the show and stuck their noses into Once and made sure they did something about it. No actor in the world asks to leave a steady show when that actor hasn’t really had a lot of longer term acting gigs over the years. By all accounts this cast was right as rain during the NL arc (pics, tweets, snarky comments back and forth, etc) and then suddenly things changed and the main cast started acting odd before most of them stopped tweeting about the show all together.

There was something off about hiatus. The pics from Ginny weren’t of the casting having fun but rather almost episode stills. Hardly anyone tweeted about their day. Almost no one was tweeting each other. #TeamGG has pretty much monopolized Ginny’s *entire* feed (and does a poor job of it, if you ask me. Honestly…the EXAMINER?!)

Preach about the horrible way Ginny’s team has handled her Twitter account lately. They need social media lessons ASAP. BTW-Interesting timing…JMo’s birthday is this weekend and I will VERY interested to see if any of her cast mates come off Twitter silence to wish her a happy birthday. They’re done filming so everyone should be at home now. I know I’ll be stalking Twitter for sure that day just to see if anyone says anything to her.

IMO, nothing is out of the realm of possibility with Once since these are the guys who worked on Lost for six years. Crack theories may abound but they can always make sense with these trolls. 😉

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[heatherc1275]

Phee wrote:

Sidenote: I’m here listening to the Once Upon A Fans podcast and both hosts don’t believe Neal’s staying dead, to the point where they’re specifying that they’re saying words like dead and coffin with airquotes.

Interesting. Daniel and Jeremy are convinced that Neal IS dead and is staying dead. Operation Cobra obviously shut down their entire operation. OUAF thinks he’s coming back….(and we know how obsessively they follow spoilers, like we do)

OUAF has been VERY pro Hook/CS too (so bad with their site/social media that I almost unfollowed their Twitter handle the other day) so that is very interesting. Really all this proves is that we have no freaking clue what the heck is going on anymore, LOL 😉

 

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[heatherc1275]

Slurpeez108 wrote:

The question then is in what form? Here are some possibilities: a flashback, a ghost, or an AU. “Dead is dead,” but if time were to be reversed, as Phee suggested, that would mean Neal’s death would be undone. This would allow for sufficient closure. Neal would get to see his son. Rumple would be free to see Neal. Emma and Neal could even kiss and maybe TLK would do something magical. Why else have Belle confirm Emma and Neal had true love and yet they didn’t even kiss goodbye? Because that would be too “easy” to undoing Zelena’s curse and the season would’ve ended prematurley. Yet, like RG, I have a hunch if Neal were to return, it would be just for the finale. The way Neal’s death was so quickly executed seemed like MRJ did in fact want off the show, so MRJ returning for 3×22 might just be for a single episode.

If time is undone and he comes back, the heroes still have to somehow fix the undoing of time, meaning Neal dies all over again, unless the intent is to have them live in a changed timeline for the rest of the show.

What if they’re not actually undoing their own timeline but undoing something Zelena did before they even got back to the EF in 3×11? Zelena is pretty powerful in her own right and maybe when Regina was undoing her own curse, Z was able to set her own plan in motion, in effect giving them the WRONG timeline in the first place so she could enact her actual plan. It’s way farfetched but these are the guys who worked on Lost. In this scenario, them defeating her and righting the story would actually put them back on their RIGHT timeline and then Neal would live since he wasn’t supposed to die in the first place. I don’t know. That’s probably reaching but it could happen (dude, these guys made a BABY have magical powers in this last episode….anything is possible at this point) and it would actually explain why this season feels so manic and different compared to the other ones. We’ve all talked about how this is the season of misdirection….this is one way that this could actually be explained. Meh, this is a total crack theory for sure so why am I even writing it down, LOL 😉

BTW-I don’t think it was MRJ who wanted to leave the show. I think ABC wanted MRJ to leave the show and stuck their noses into Once and made sure they did something about it. No actor in the world asks to leave a steady show when that actor hasn’t really had a lot of longer term acting gigs over the years. By all accounts this cast was right as rain during the NL arc (pics, tweets, snarky comments back and forth, etc) and then suddenly things changed and the main cast started acting odd before most of them stopped tweeting about the show all together. I really do think ABC stuck their noses into the show’s story and the main cast didn’t like it so they’re now protesting by refusing to tweet much about the show anymore. The silence sticks out like a sore thumb to me and I would not at all be surprised to hear that something specific happened during S3 that caused the silence. MRJ doesn’t strike me as the type who would ask to leave a show, but I’ve watched ABC for a LONG time now and I can totally see them sticking their nose into the story and wanting things to go a certain way because of pressure from focus groups and social media. They’re doing it with Nashville this year too (don’t get me started on how up and down that show has been this year). 🙁   /end rant

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Ya see, it’s weird, but with each passing day, I keep feeling even more that Neal’s gonna be brought back in the finale. I’ve got my end of season headcanon with the baelfire thing with the time unraveling, and it all plays out so perfectly in my head. They erase time back to when they all arrived in FTL, exact same shot, everyone looks over at Neal who is all O______O because the last thing he remembers is he died, and Belle gives him a bear hug because he’s back. Then they go over and wreck Philora’s picnic, because they’ve now figured out that they need to break through the floor to get to the Well of Wonders because the OUAT twist is that it’s that specific water that can harm the Wicked Witch, (which is why she had it boarded up in the first place so no one could use it against her). Then up pops Nyx, who happily gives them water to use on Zelena, because she’s been trying to break the laws of magic, and Nyx does not approve. Then she also gives some water to Belle and Neal, telling them that Rumple’s sacrifice in 311 means he’s granted a second chance and a happy ending. So Regina goes to dump water on Zelena at the castle, and Belle and Neal set off for the Vault again. This time they just need to pour the water into the keyhole, which is a lovely little mirror to the last time when it all went wrong, because they were led there by lying FLAMES and the symbol that was BURNED into Neal’s hand was the triangle, which is the alchemical symbol for FIRE, so this time they’re using water which is the total opposite, water extinguishes the harmful effects of fire, which means no nasty side effects this time around. And meanwhile back in NYC, Emma and Walsh are working together on their end to get back to where the others are, or there’s a plan in place to meet in SB again, either works, but the point is that at the very end, Emma and Neal are gonna see each other again and the season will end with an epic TLK. I mean, it all fits together perfectly in my head. We KNOW that they’re gonna be messing with time because it’s Zelena’s big plan, so, yeah, I just can’t rule it out that at least some part of my crackpot headcanon could happen. It would explain Neal’s promo slogan. It would fit with the “second chances” theme in multiple ways, not only would Neal get a second chance at life, but Rumple gets a second chance too, and they get a second chance to take out Zelena. It would explain why they’re not bothering to dwell on Neal’s death right now, because there’s no point taking up screentime with that when he’s gonna come back eventually anyway, (don’t get me wrong, I will FOREVER be pissed that they’re not bothering to give him the attention he deserves right now, but from a we’ve-got-a-story-to-tell-in-a-restricted-amount-of-time perspective, the writers could justify it to themselves if he’s gonna be back). And it would give their heroine the most fricking EPIC love story of all, that even defied death, and let’s face it, the fricking Saviour should get a love story that defies death. No other love story could ever top that, and Emma “Saviour” Swan deserves to have the most dramatic, overcoming IMPOSSIBLE odds, love story ever. *sits on corner and waits for the season finale*

Your head canon almost exactly matches the one that popped into my head this week and that I haven’t been able to shake yet. I’m kind of glad someone else was thinking along the same lines as me because I thought I was just nuts and emotionally desperate for anything. Hey, maybe we still are but at least it’s grounded in a reasonable theory from what we’ve seen all ready, LOL 😉 I still don’t know if these writers are clever enough to pull something like that off (they did do some crazy stuff on Lost though…) but it would make the stuff right now a lot more tolerable in the big picture. Part of me wants to see something like this happen and part of me wants MRJ to stay as far away as possible since the writers are all about the plot now and not character development. He’s too good to be wasted on this show anymore and if they brought him back only to waste him again, I would be LIVID as a fan. (BTW-The only big difference between my scenario and yours is that I have Zelena being erased from the canvas all together when everyone gets transported back to where they were at the start of 3×12 which means Walsh is still the Wizard of Oz because he’s never changed into a flying monkey and Rumple isn’t trapped. In my head canon, Zelena did something magical when Rumple poofed away in 3×11 to prevent the Dark Curse from being broken by his sacrifice and if defeating her resets everything, then Rumple would all ready free from his curse and able to return to the others in the EF. Maybe someday I’ll type out my full head canon but it won’t be this week because I’m way too busy, LOL)

Thanks for the post @Phee. Knowing I’m not the only one with a random head canon like this makes me feel so much less insane, LOL 😉 (Not getting my hopes up, not getting my hopes up, not getting my hopes up…..)

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RumplesGirl wrote:

Phee wrote:

hat about right? Nobody with the time and/or memory to mourn Neal Cassidy? Yep. Seems about right.

100% agree. Nobody is being allowed time to grieve. It’s: get on with the show.

That’s pretty much Once’s theme song. They never have time to stand still for a sec. They never have time for anything, cause the big bad is wreaking havoc. If they didn’t try to squish one big story into only half a season then maybe they would have the time.

It is horrifically sad to me that they aren’t giving the characters (specifically Emma and Rumple) any real time to grieve for their lost love/son. I’m still bitter that Henry doesn’t remember his father and that Neal died without ever seeing his son again. Screw shipping….that was wrong on EVERY SINGLE LEVEL. 😥

We are never going to get our Kitchen Table episode (or the Kitchen Table half of S4 like we’ve all talked about a million times) and that makes me really sad. They went from one extreme to the other by sacrificing great character development for over plotting and too much action in every single episode and I was having that problem with this show before Neal died two eps ago. This plan might be gaining some of the younger viewers who have the attention spans of doorknobs but they’re hemorrhaging viewers like me who’ve been watching the show for the characters and wanting to see them grow and change over time. I honestly don’t think they can ever go back to that now either. 🙁

No cousin news today but again, no news is good news right now. I’ve been busy the last two nights so I haven’t gotten to really check in on how he’s doing but my aunt would call if there’s anything big going on with him. Thanks again for the continued thoughts and prayers! It means more to me than I can express in words. *HUGS* 😀

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