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ParticipantI don’t know how to promote the Operation Tiger postcard today without being a snarky brat so I just stuck with sending it to Adam for now since I knew he was on Twitter. I hope I didn’t come off snarky…I was feeling more bummed out when I sent it. *sigh* 🙁
#HopeforSwanFire #SwanFireAlways #WeepingWednesday (which somehow seems appropriate right now)
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#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantAnd I’ve seen every season of LOST and Grey’s. They’ve never once left out regular actors from the full promo pics. And they have HUGE (seriously…HUGE) casts
Requoted for truth. I have watched GA since the freaking PILOT and they have never left anyone off their promotional stuff. They’ve even included people I can’t stand so I’m not being biased with that observation, LOL 😉 I feel like the ABC twits don’t realize how much of what they do affects the fandom now in the wake of the social media explosion. They need someone competent on their staff who can monitor various websites, tumblr, Instagram, and Twitter much better so they realize how much what they do affects people. If they knew how many fans were upset right now and ready to give up the show, I think they would start rethinking their strategies since no viewers = no ratings which also = no AD REVENUE and we all know that this business is all about MONEY. 😉

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantI’m on the way to a meeting so this won’t be proofed.. just going to spew for a minute. I’m back to the hopeless feeling that left me turning my back on everything during this hiatus. I do however, have one thought about ABC’s promotional department that could explain things in a manner of which I would feel sorta okay with– but, I’m not overly optimistic. I work in marketing, I’ve been a designer and creative professional for over 10 years. I know the game, and I know that the entertainment world is brutal. It’s about money, period. ABC cares about the fans, but not enough to do things that would make them happy over doing things that gets viewership and a following outside of the core folks (like us here). They want buzz. They want to feed the ones who will give them views. In their mind, right now, that is Hook. His guyliner, accent and leather have weakened the knees of females around the viewing radius– and he’s selling for them. (Hypothetically) So here you are, you’re ABC and you’re faced with a situation that your “hot new thing” is being killed off. He’ll be gone by the season’s end. Do you phase him out of marketing to prepare his audience, or do you get them falling at his feet for the next piece of evidence that he’s indeed the next big thing in your main character’s life. You reel them in and make them think all is well.. market the season with him as an (assumed) major selling point. You milk the last “dime” out of him before he’s gone. I don’t for a second believe he was ever meant to be long-term and I still stand by the fact that if the death is story-driven it IS. NOT. NEAL. However, I would be lying if i wasn’t skeptical that MRJ wants out and is leaving and they’d try tooth and nail to convince us that it was planned all along. I pray it’s not that because it ruins the show and my faith I’ve placed in the team that makes this show happen. I don’t know if I’m watching or not come Sunday. I’m on the fence but I will say that I believe ABC knows what they are doing by leaving Neal out and implanted Hook in EVERYTHING.. even if it means tap dancing all over my heart. In other news, I tried to cheer myself up over break. Not sure it worked.
BAH, I needed to see something pretty and you provided it!! That is wonderful and now I’m trying not to cry again at work. Thanks for sharing it!! <3 🙂
[spoiler]I actually have some marketing experience myself and I totally agree with your speculation. It does make sense to promote the crap out of
is one of their more popular characters (let’s ignore the fact that he’s not even the most popular GUY on this show for a moment) and then he gets ripped away from the fandom which gives the show buzz and excitement later in the season. A&E are right in that they don’t do the promotion for the show; they’re the writers and are trying to tell the story. I can’t see any logical reason why the WRITERS are putting in all these little SwanFire moments only to rip them away later on and giving us whiplash with it. ABC was given the entire season’s stories back in the fall and IF THEY ARE NOT LYING and this death was planned from the start of S3, then ABC would definitely want to get more bang for their buck and make it a huge deal for the fans. A huge deal isn’t a character not included on their big ‘panel of doom’ dying halfway through the season or whenever it happens on screen. That’s a cop out and personally, I think the fact that one character appeared on a panel all by himself really makes him primary suspect #1 for me. We speculated what feels like eons ago that Emma would have to go through a lot of things personally to really figure out that she loves and wants to be with Neal. I think S3B is part of that journey for her to figure out her heart and everything that she goes through, including whatever it is with Hook and Walsh for that matter, is part of her finally finding that peace and forgiveness inside that she needs to have for Neal so she will eventually let him back into her heart. This panel thing REALLY SUCKS, don’t get me wrong, but if ABC is using it to give the spoiler of doom more bang for the buck, then hopefully we will look back on all of this two months from now and smack our heads and laugh about how stressed out we were over it. No more BTS garbage, no more paparazzi speculation, no more thinking that MRJ would be unhappy and want out of the show (that is total garbage in my mind…this guy LOVES this show and he loves his castmates; you can tell and seriously, why make him a regular cast member and then kill him off AGAIN?! Makes no sense whatsoever no matter what ANYONE says), and NO MORE BELIEVING ABC about anything.[/spoiler] Ugh, I promised I wouldn’t rant again. Sorry guys. 🙁

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantIt probably doesn’t mean anything, and it doesn’t make me feel better, but I find it interesting that @OnceABC hasn’t officially tweeted that panel out to everyone yet. I wonder how much backlash they’re dealing with right now. Forget the SwanFire fans and our small little corner of the universe, I’m sure the Rumbelle fans are the ones crying foul and having hissy fits the most over this and they should be plenty annoyed just like us. Someone on Tumblr posted a picture with Neal, Belle, and Henry around Rumple on the third panel and it actually looks really good aside from their color schemes not being as dark as the rest of that panel which could easily be fixed (I tweeted it out so you guys can find my username and see it there). I am SO TIRED of ABC and their ‘promotions’. They will be lucky to get any ratings at the rate they’re going because they’ve honked off a few too many fans now. I ranted over in the other thread so I’ll spare you guys more of that but I am still so frustrated by this turn of events.
BTW: I still don’t think Neal is the character to die and honestly, the panel kind of confirms that for me. The death is supposed to be shocker but if it’s a character they couldn’t even bother to include in the promotional stuff for S3B, then what type of shock would that be to anyone? My money is still on Hook and I’m not basing that off promotions, pictures, or any BTS stuff…I’m basing it off of STORY which is what A&E have said about it several times now (the death comes from the storytelling). If they go any other direction with it or it turns out they lied to us, I’m done with this show all together. I don’t like being lied to about anything, period.

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantGrey’s = Meredith Grey; Scandal = Olivia Pope; Nashville = Rayna/Juliette; Revenge = Emily Thorne.
NO Adam. Those shows are NOT the same as yours and quite frankly, throwing SHIELD in that comparison is total crap because that show is more of an ensemble show but Caulson was always the main person in it from the Marvel universe and has always been the most featured character. If you’re applying that logic to your own show, then EMMA should be front and center in everything since she’s your MAIN HEROINE. I should not let things like this get to me but seriously, it’s like ALL THE TIME with this network.
/end rant (I am SO done with ABC in general right now)

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantYeah, it’s bad enough leaving one but leaving THREE cast members off that panel is such a slap in the face and it’s to nearly half the fandom! SwanFires were all ready on edge through this hiatus and now Rumbellers are going to be flipping their lids just as badly and they have every right because at the VERY least, Neal & Belle should have been included on that last panel. ABC is such an epic fail in the promotion department anyway but they’ve REALLY killed the Oncer fandom with how crappy they’ve handled things and treated some of the characters this season. If I were A&E, no matter how much it might hurt my relationship with the network, I would be yelling like crazy at ABC for this because they should know by now that we’re a passionate bunch of fans and if you honk off enough of us, your ratings are going to go even lower than before and you won’t even get a chance at season four. I am more angry than anything at this point because it just adds more fuel to the fire of the hiatus rumors and the fandom as a whole DID NOT need that right now.

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantI can yell #BOOM all I want but it’s not going to change anything. I am so tired of this.
I agree. I feel really discouraged right now. I don’t know what they think all of this promotional stuff is doing to the fandom but it’s really not doing anything good. ABC is really screwing things up this year with their promotions and IMO, it’s messing up A&E’s stories too because everyone is speculating about the Spoiler of Doom or the stupid Triangle of Doom and no one really cares about what’s actually coming with the story. I’m back to not feeling very excited about the season again and I hate that feeling. 🙁

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantFor what it’s worth, Colin is most likely on his way to LA with Lana, Jmo and Josh to film GMA and the View, airing tomorrow.
The View and GMA appearances are actually on Friday and they’re in NY, not LA.

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantInteresting RG. I wonder who all encompasses the ‘main cast’ in this tweet (obviously he excluded who he knew wasn’t there but I have issues with that terminology now).

#MoreBOOMLessGloomheatherc1275
ParticipantSorry, I had to post this. I am really upset with ABC right now. What a slap in the face to not only the three actors but to the fanbase too. 🙁

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