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ParticipantI am making sense. The Hook scenes had nothing to do with anything. There was no character development. They were Hook interacting with a character who holds no relevance to the plot and even if he somehow shows up and takes Hook’s ship, he could have done that without all of that wasted screen time.
Hook can get home without showing him wandering around, gambling and adventuring, with Blackbeard. Hook getting home is the only plot point that matters, nothing in that episode was at all about that. They could have just left the bit where Gideon tells Emma that Hook can’t get back because he has her tears and left it at that. Those scenes were a complete waste and were off point in an episode that was about Emma/Snow, Henry/Regina, and Gideon/Black Fairy/Belle.
If they wanted to show him arrive in Neverland at the end of the episode via bean and run from some lost boys, that would have been enough to just establish that Hook was in Neverland.
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ParticipantEh, Cora and Hook were the arc villains for Season 2 and Dark Swan was not the arc villain. She was barely a villain. Hook and Arthur were the arc villains for that half.
hjbau
ParticipantThey are filler because what Hook is doing in the Enchanted forest and Neverland does not matter. They were pointless scenes.
hjbau
ParticipantWatsonian explanation is Rumple lost this power when he died. Doylist explanation is the writers stopped following some sort of outline or plan so they couldn’t have Rumple “foresee” events they didn’t know about in advance.
I think it is that it is just inconvenient to the writers to have Rumpel seeing the future be part of the plot. They only used it a few times and i think it was a real mistake anyways. Before that he was a character who was smart and had a long game manipulative plan. After that he is just a character who sees the future and so he knows who to interact with and in what way, so he isn’t smart, he is just going where the visions make him go.
The writers probably don’t remember that was even part of his character anymore though. They don’t remember half the things that happened on this show.
hjbau
ParticipantI still think it might just all be a dream or in their heads.
To what end, though? Just to wake themselves up?
To no end. Though, even if this is real there is nothing that will come of it. There is no character growth on this show anymore. There is no character growth between the characters anymore. Emma just loves her parents and they have the perfect happy relationship with her even though that makes no sense. Emma and Regina are best friends and work together perfectly without conflict even though that makes no sense. Emma and Hook are dating and going to get married even though that makes no sense.
The end is to show a scene where Snow and Charming interact with a young Emma. It isn’t going to impact the present day whether it is real or not or in anyway effect their already perfect relationship. The relationship between Emma and her parents should have taken the entire show to work through, instead they spent like three episodes on it in Season 2.
hjbau
ParticipantI still think it might just all be a dream or in their heads.
hjbau
ParticipantI think they acted like Rumpel just saw flashes of the future. Like he knew that Emma’s last name was Swan, but he needed Snow to tell him Emma’s first name so when he heard it at the end of the pilot he would regain his memories. There is no evidence that Rumpel just sees all of the future, but rather that he just sees short, disjointed visions of some sort.
hjbau
ParticipantIs this the episode where they are in each other’s dream?
April 10, 2017 at 9:35 am in reply to: EW 4/9 – Ultimate villain arrives as Final Battle begins #335771hjbau
ParticipantThere is no evidence that JMo is returning. There is no evidence of any of that.
hjbau
ParticipantIf are going to have the Black Fairy enact a dark curse, then who is the heart of the thing that she loves most?
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