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I don’t mind you joking about that, I just wanted to know why. Well, I think there’s a reason why Jane episodes don’t have a lot of CS in them (except Tallahasse, but I don’t think she ment for Hook to be seen as a love interest), and writing the scene about Rumple in 503, maybe she hoped the writers won’t ignore that scene. But according to what you say, I can’t help but think that by tweeting this: https://twitter.com/JaneEspenson/status/673745842117853185 she might have threw some shade at A&E.
Wow, Jane. But yeah, the producers giving in to what they perceived the fans want and what ABC wanted at the expense of their story is one of the biggest problems with Ouat. I don’t think Jane is a good writer. I think she makes big mistakes in her episodes. If it wasn’t for Joss on Buffy then Buffy would not be what it is now. Jane doesn’t get all the good from Buffy on her shoulders. Also, the twist of Skin Deep, Rumpel being the beast, that was Eddy and Adam not Jane.
I think the heart splitting is not going to work just because they have already done that and have already announced that is what they plan to do. If that is the case then why don’t they walk down there and get out just like that. They can’t that’s why. There is something else going on here with Hades having trapped people here or something.
I actually agree with you — Rumple’s search for power has been consistently presented as a symptom of his villainy. I just want to point out that on OUAT characters who consciously seek power (presumably beyond their station) tend to be cast as evil. This isn’t just Rumple — this is also Cora, Zelena, Regina, Isaac, Nimue etc By contrast, characters who accidentally fall into or are born into power (Emma, Snow, Charming, Merlin) are not considered morally suspect. This is a classic fairytale trope, but one that OUAT reproduces non-reflexively. The lack of reflexivity occasionally backfires when OUAT’s medieval universe encounters modern day sensibilities. So the idea that a desire for upward mobility always = overreaching and a sign of evil is kind of problematic
Upward mobility? You are equating Rumpel wanting to become the most evil being of his time to upward mobility? Rumpel murders people so they are scared of him. He murders people because they get in his way. He is willing to harm his son and his wife, seriously harm, to keep his power. He now, in full knowledge of what being the evil dark one does to him, still wants the power. I just don’t agree with what you are saying here. I think equating upward mobility to evil can be a problem, i just don’t think that is what is going on on Ouat.
Of course, they film out of order. I see what you mean though about the shoes. I really dislike the idea of Emma getting a new jacket, maybe this person stole hers and she is getting it back. I would rather that. Was the new jacket she had red?
Definitely not Emma’s jacket. Though Emma could have started wearing leather jackets because of this character.
I don’t think that jacket looks at all like Emma’s jacket. I am still not understanding why people are thinking the clothes that Emma is wearing in the scene with the Bug outside the store are Underworld clothes. I may have missed some pictures somewhere. I do think that at least some of these are young Emma flashbacks. I think the idea this was a bail bounds person is a good idea, but i think that none of these theories have any basis in the spoilers. It is just as likely this is just some random person that Emma is chasing for some reason. Who knows at this point.
