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For me, clothing says much more about what sort of scene it is going to be then anything. Like one they usually have characters wear similar colors on tv shows, so that could be why they are all wearing dark colors. And the scene they are going into is against Rumpel.
It is sort of like when Emma puts on her red jacket you know something is going to go down. Or when Rumpel takes off his jacket so he looks softer in Skin Deep. Or when they want Henry to be all together and smart and know what he is doing they dress him like an old man and then when they want him to be more kid like, seem more innocent he might be in his uniform. To me there is thought into outfits based on the scene and what the other people in the scene are wearing so that they don’t clash with each other.
I am not saying this isn’t a viable theory, certainly it is.
Yeah, i do agree that we are probably going to learn that the mystery man is Henry’s father in Ep 6 and most likely not learn that he is Bae until later on in the season. Why show your hand that easily, but then again they did just toss stuff out there last season that seemed like they should have had a big reveal for, like Regina knowing Emma was the savior, so who knows what they will do.
Wait i kept listening and then they say that they were trying to seed things like the name thing in Ep 1, but it just seems like they did not intend initially to show Gold in Storybrooke. I have no idea what that means for the show though, what they intended. If they just intended to use him to show his foreknowledge to give a reason for Snow and Charming to send Emma through the wardrobe. I just don’t know what they meant.
Yes, it is the commentary that i was thinking on. The producers say something like they wrote the part for Robert but never thought they would get him. They say something like they had so much fun with the character that it expanded on writing the scene for him in the Pilot that they then made him be in two scenes in the pilot. They say his role expanded so that he could be at the end of the pilot to because they fell in love with his role and he became a huge part of the fabric and DNA of the show.
They don’t quite come out and say what i was saying though, so maybe they didn’t mean it though that is how it sounded to me the first time i heard it. That they did not intend him to be a big part of the DNA of the show and then as they started writing him he become a bigger part. I don’t know.
It doesn’t matter really at this point. I think Bae is the father. I totally agree that the producers have completely given the game away. The only thing in the show that would suggest it is just that Bae vanished to our world and Emma had a baby so that that guy would be important and that Bae is the only fairytale character out there that we know of. And just the simple Romeo and Juliet of it all with the Dark One’s son and the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming. That is just classic story telling going on there.
Maybe it was Robert that said at first Rumpel was supposed to only be in one episode, but then like i said they got him and so they decided to do more with the character. I have listened to too many interviews to have any clue where that was from though.
I mean the father is Bae, i have thought that they were being ridiculously obvious about the fact for at least six months. If he isn’t i will be happily surprised, but it is quite clear that now they intend for Bae to be the father even if they had different thoughts at the time of the pilot. They also considered killing Charming, so clearly they were throwing things all over the place at that time.
Wait, the commentary for Ep 1. Hold on.
The producers also said in some interview that they were just going to have Rumpel in the pilot and that was all until they got Robert. Who knows when exactly that all went down, but i think the initial thought was always the child of Snow White and Prince Charming, but then once they got Robert to be Rumpel, they decided to do more with that character.
I still don’t want Bae to be anyone else, but Rumpel’s son, just like Emma is only Snow and Charming’s daughter. That is by far interesting enough for me. And i think that when it was said that Bae went through the bean vortex into a land without magic that that needs to be true and so i think he went immediately to our world and not to Neverland or anywhere else.
I am agreeing that at some point, once they got green lit for the pilot, we can only hope that they thought out the purpose for the curse as one of the most basic premises. Though honestly at that point it may have been the basic premise of Regina wants to curse the whole world and just that. Everything that happens with Rumpel creating the curse happens in Ep 2 and the pilot has a lot of inconsistencies, but then so does Ep 2.
The thing is we have never actually seen Snow pick Storybrooke clothes. There is no reference there. We have seen what she wears in fairytale land, but not Storybrooke.
And Emma’s outfit seems pretty normal Emma to me with the boots and the tank top. It is only the coat that is questionable and i have no issue with them having different clothes. The jacket Emma has been wearing all season, we never saw in the first season either, but i don’t think that means that she is someone else.
I think that Jennifer saying that she has always known, she knew since before the pilot was aired, has always been the greatest proof that the father is Bae. Who else could it be. Who else was always part of the fabric of the story. Unless Bae was just made up right before Desperate Souls and they were like hey lets have Rumpel have a son, which maybe, but considering that is supposed to be the purpose behind Rumpel doing the curse then well it seems like that should have been thought out.
I am never quite sure with these producers because sometimes they seem thoughtful in what they are doing and other times completely thoughtless.
I do think that Bae is the father though and that he is the mystery man. I think there is no chance that the father is a regular guy, though i wouldn’t have minded that, but the producers joked about that in way that said he is not a regular guy at comic con. I think the father has to be someone and since that is true that really the only character we know is Bae that is out there. I don’t want it to be true though, i would rather someone else. Though we have been talking about Bae being the father for so long that i have come around a bit more to the idea. We will see what sort of man he has become.
