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hjbau
ParticipantFor me, Emma is the best thing about this show. Real Emma from the first few seasons. The Emma that was an abused child that was really angry at her parents who abandoned her. The Emma that was learning what it meant to be a mom and a friend and to be part of a community. The Emma that was an abused child who was neglected and used as a child. The Emma who was left by Henry’s father and didn’t know how to trust a partner because of that. The Emma who wanted home and found and lost that with Neal, then found it again with Henry and Snow. The early Emma that was complicated and flawed and real and had a painful backstory was the best thing about this show.
That was all very quickly lost and was all but gone by the end of Season 2 and certainly by the end of 3. They completely rewrote that character in a lot of ways. She was no longer trying to make things right with her parents that was all “resolved” even though it was barely discussd. She was no longer trying to be Henry’s mother. She was no longer standing up for what was right, but instead was just doing what was good for herself. There would be brief nice scenes now and then with Emma and her parents or with Henry or with Neal, but it never held true to what they showed us in the first season and a half or so.
Still, the early concept of Emma was what was good about this show and the person that everything about the show swung around. Her scenes with all the mains were great. With Snow, with Charming, with Henry, with Regina, with Rumpel, and with Neal were the soul of the show and when they started pulling those things out of the show, the show died.
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ParticipantYeah, for sure. With the death of Bae and then Belle, there is really nothing else going on, but losing his immortality and dying. That is a mess of a storyline.
hjbau
ParticipantYeah, i do agree that his talk does sound suicidal. He is constantly talking about wanting to be reunited with Belle and that seems to be the only thing he is working on. He is making a plan with the goal to die and be with Belle. That is all very suicidal talk.
hjbau
ParticipantIt still just seems insane that Regina is queen of anything. Even Storybrooke. She is more the paper pusher of Storybrooke then anything.
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ParticipantI don’t think that Rumpel is going to kill himself. Though, i could see how him choosing to become mortal seems like that. It does seem like real Rumpel is going to stab fake Rumpel and that is how he is going to die, but maybe he does that because that is the only way to save everyone else. It does depend on how it all plays out and the dialogue surrounding it all.
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ParticipantYeah, i don’t really know if that information is real, but it is floating around. I agree completely that it doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know what they are going to do with the timeline. There is multiples of all the characters right now, so i don’t know how it is going to all work itself out. Though anything can happen, so it probably is real.
hjbau
ParticipantThey are terrible show runners to mess with people’s heads like that.
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ParticipantI agree with Rumpelsgirl. I, also, think the writers thought that they had finished that prophecy. It was Henry because he was in the drawing that Pan had. The problem being that Rumpel was still the dark one at the end of all that and so the prophecy was not actually fulfilled. That is why they are throwing it back in there trying to pretend that they actually have a plan which they do not.
hjbau
ParticipantThat is a very good question. There is no explanation for this. I don’t think that the bean went through time though because the dwarfs would know an older Robyn. I think this is just another instance of the writers forgetting what they said in the episodes right before. The don’t care. There is no plan.
They used the messing up the timeline as an excuse for why they weren’t showing Emma, but they have said it, so we are just supposed to accept it. Now they are moving on and nothing the happened in the past episodes matter.
They can’t go through time though because Ella and Lucy are trapped in the past in the wish realm, not in the future in the wish realm because fake Henry is still young.
hjbau
ParticipantI heard it was something about how she is the queen of the multiverse or something utterly bizarre. I don’t know how true that information is, but who knows. I completely agree that it makes no sense at all because Regina has always been the queen of Storybrooke even though that made no sense. It would make so much more sense for Emma to be queen because she was always the one in charge of the group. It almost seems like Regina is just getting a title just so they can give her a big moment and have a big ball for the end of the show.
It does not make any sense at all. Young Henry should never forgive her. How can anyone be queen over multiple realms? What is even the purpose or meaning of that? It just is something they are doing for the fun of it, in my opinion. It makes zero sense.
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