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Yeah, there are many ways they could get around making the characters look older. I just don’t think that they are going to make Regina or Hook look older. They are going to pick a way to get around it, whether a curse, or an alternate reality version, time travel version, anything. Like you said, Rumpel is the dark one and his physical appearance never ages, so he will look like the same.
[adrotate group="5"]I think there is no chance they are going to age Regina, Rumpel, or Hook. I don’t know how they are going to get around that, but i think they will. They are going to look the same, in my opinion.
I think there is no chance of the characters just being in flashbacks either. I don’t see the point in keeping them if they were going to do that.
There are only five episodes left that i even like at this point. I can only hope that the musical and the Crocodile and Desperate Souls go soon.
They did shoot that thing where Lana was dressed up like the Evil Queen and Keri Washington was on set too. It was like one of those all the ABC shows kind of thing. I don’t know if they would use any of that, but yeah, a week of filming, i don’t know if they would have anything. They could throw something together though. Maybe like an introduction to some of the new actors and characters. I could see them saving that for Comic con too, if they go.
Yeah, it was bad. Writers shouldn’t do stuff like that. It was so bad. There is just so much you can do in a situation where Emma, the Good Guy, is now infected with the shows dark power. The first being actually make that really effect her besides the minor things she did comparatively to what an average villain on Ouat has done. Emma should have killed someone. Also, have that arc actually focus completely on the dark one power and what it has meant for Rumpel, the main character who has been the dark one for centuries.
The Camelot stuff was a mistake, in my opinion, because then the show thought it had to give screen time to Arthur and Guinevere and the knights and Lancelot, but they don’t. They shouldn’t have. Arthur showing up for a couple episodes, even Lancelot showing up again since he was in the past, makes sense, but none of those characters should have arcs.
Think about Cora. We meet her and we see different episodes from her past like when she abused Regina and murdered Daniel, when she was the Queen of Hearts, when she meets Rumpel and gives birth to Regina, when Regina hires Hook to murder her, but they didn’t take just one of those situations like when Cora met Regina’s father and got married to him and what happened with her and Rumpel and then make a whole half season arc and give all those characters backstories because not every character needs that kind of backstory.
Like they could have introduced Merlin as the character that lasts the arc and had an episode here and there were we show his backstory and see some of the Camelot characters without trying to give those characters their own multi episode arc. It isn’t even about liking or disliking those scenes for me. I don’t think the Camelot scenes were bad and i liked Arthur as a character and i like Lancelot, but i just don’t think we needed any of that.
Especially in light of what was lost which was real depth with Rumpel and a complex and interesting dark one backstory, with Emma being actually evil, with Emma being cruel to her family as the dark one, and with Rumpel, now not the dark one, being open about his mistakes with Emma, Neal, and Belle.
I think for me the arc would be Merlin is the reocurring character. Emma is actually the dark one. Emma is cruel to her family, but doesn’t harm them, but is a real danger to everyone else. The arc is everyone is trying to figure out a way for Emma to not be the dark one. The backstory is the dagger was part of the first murder. Merlin’s sons. Maybe Merlin walks in on it shoves the murderer son away and he gets stabbed by the dagger as well which is some other tool at this time. Then they could have the grail take part in the story where Merlin has his son drink from the grail to try and save his life and since he murdered his brother it turns him into the first dark one instead.
They could then somehow use the grail in the present day scenes to save Emma. Maybe Emma murders Merlin when she realizes he knows about this because he has some information on how to destroy the dark one power. Something like the power can only be gotten rid of if the person who takes it on is not a murderer and they drink from the cup, but Emma then murderers Merlin so she can’t give up the power. Then Rumpel takes the power back onto himself to get it out of Emma because Rumpel has been able to control himself, within reason, even though he is the dark one for while now. Maybe Rumpel stabs Emma with the dagger taking the power back, but she drinks from the cup so she lives, but because Rumpel has been the dark one before it somehow makes the power strengthened and they can’t pull it from him again.
There would be more to it then that, but this would be about the actual characters and actually be about Rumpel who was the dark one and Emma would actually do something really evil.
I like the biblical undertones too, though they can go to far sometimes (Emma and The Last Supper for one). I agree that The Dark One mythology needs more work than almost anything else and tying TDO into the fairies somehow would make me happy. Maybe they really should go back to the dawn of time and make Merlin the very first person (in this magical land at least). He escapes into this magical realm through a door or a magical pool in a wood or something and ends up in an enchanted and unpeopled realm. In that realm he finds the grail and drinks from it, becoming magical. He’s lonely so he begins bringing in other humans from our world to the magical realm. He thought this realm was unpeopled, but in fact fairies live there, and somehow the coming of the humans upsets the balance causing a fairy (either Blue or Black) to go dark and desire non-fairylike things. Then at some point Merlin meets Nimue who eventually drinks from the grail, becomes magical like Merlin and commits an act of murder which is forbidden in light magic and thus she corrupts her own magic and becomes the first Dark One. I still like that the dagger and Excalibur are two halves of the same blade, even though I think what they did with it sucked. Basically both the story of the first Dark One and the origin of The Black Fairy needed to be set in ancient times and …heck they just needed to be epic and as written they just weren’t. …you know I’m really enjoying this. It scratches some of those annoying itches Once has handed out over the years.
Yeah, for me there would be no Camelot arc. There would never be half season arcs. That just creates middles full of filler. I like the idea of Merlin being the first human in the Enchanted Forest, which i actually think he was. I think when they drank from the grail it created the Enchanted Forest, but there would be no Camelot or any of that.
The dark one arc would actually be about the dark one. I think Emma being the dark one was an interesting way of going about it, but Hook would not be part of it. Neal would still be there and it would be about how Neal knew what it was like to have a father as the dark one and now Henry’s mother is the dark one. That Belle knew what it was like to have a love interest as the dark one and Neal’s love interest is now the dark one. Emma would have said all the things she has ever said about the parents that abandoned her to Snow and Charming. Emma would state all of the mistrust she initially felt towards Regina at her. It would be about Emma talking to actual Rumpel about being the dark one and what he has lost from that and how his desire for power has messed up his life. It would not be Emma talking to a fake Rumpel in her head.
Oh yeah, i forgot. Rumpel would no longer be the dark one, so we would see him interacting with Neal, Belle, and Henry as not the dark one and they would be talking about all that.
The dark one mythology, for me, is easily the biggest like plot point mistake that was made. Even outside of the problem of Hook being part of it at all when he should not have been. The mythology was just so anti climactic and i don’t think it fit with what we knew. I think that the dark one mythology, surrounding the first murder and the creation of the dagger would be where you first introduce the idea of like their being two old fairies that something happened between, maybe introduce the light fairy who the Blue fairy is trying to suggest is the dark fairy, but what happened between them and their part in the creation of the Enchanted Forest and their part in the first murder that would all come out in the next season. This is long game plot.
Also, the characters would never be separated from each other in different realms. I think if it would be me at the end of Season 2, Storybrooke would have become connected to the Enchanted Forest somehow. Like if you walk into the woods to the south of town you would end up in the Enchanted Forest. Maybe even have a thick place of evergreen trees with a lamp post or something like that. The difficulty with traveling between realms would no longer exist, but Storybrooke would still exist.
There is a lot because so much was not well written, in my opinion.
Zelena would have just died when Rumpel killed her in the jail and that would have been the end of that for me. I didn’t like any of her plot after that. I didn’t even like her plot before that. She made me laugh, but she didn’t add anything to the story, in my opinion. I wouldn’t have minded them doing more with the Wicked Witch of the West or doing more with a character who was Regina’s half sister, but for me it would just have to be something completely different then what it was.
The half season arcs caused real problems for the show which became full of filler and there was a lot of that in the Zelena arc, so it would just all go for me. It isn’t worth salvaging.
I think that because what has happened on the show was not what was originally intended by the writers and therefore all of the carefully built hints and structure in the earlier seasons never panned out makes a lot of what people said years ago pretty meaningless. The writers changed their minds, so i don’t really see the point in going back and telling people that were wrong because something didn’t happen. There is nothing to figure out on this show anymore because the writers quit building the narrative that they were originally building and just started a new narrative and they continue to do that at regular intervals.
I think talking about what we think would have been more interesting or better to have happened would be interesting, but not to go back and be like oh you said this five years ago, you were wrong and therefore you are bad at figuring stuff out. There is nothing to figure out, so no one was wrong.
