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ParticipantI love the way Robert talks about Ouat. He is always so honest. This show is sad. It is certainly not about hope.
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ParticipantI thought the Moira scenes in Canada were so good because here she is so used to not being able to do whatever she wants that it seems like she thinks these people are going to try and make her do stuff. Instead they ask her if she wants food, if she wants a shower, if she has family to call, and she isn’t used to having choices at all and now she does. She reminded me of someone who had been in prison and was used to being told want to do by the guards now being let go with a bag of stuff. I thought that scene was really well done.
The handmaids are the best part and their reactions to the situation have been the best part of the show. June was amazing in this episode. Janine was amazing in the last one. That is why i hope they show us more of those characters next season.
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ParticipantSerena is not religious. She is not a true believer in the cult. I have no idea what her motivation is besides she wants a child, but her character is inconsistent. I could understand her using a public face for an agenda, but they also have weird scenes where she is playing at being a cult believer when she is just with her husband, even before they took over. That doesn’t make sense. Then they had the scene where she told her husband to stop when he was quoting scripture at her because she knows they are faking, but the scenes before they took over they were just faking too? Why? Why would she do that back then? It just makes no sense that this would be the way they would go about doing this if they are all just faking. The true believers of the cult make sense and the commander who has a lot of power from what he is doing makes sense, but her character does not make sense because of the way she acts in private.
I didn’t say anything about what i thought a cult was or wasn’t and i don’t think that it is that. There are mainstream cults in the US now. They are not this. I don’t think a cult is a hundred guys in woods with guns. I don’t think that this is remotely the religious right and the show may be suggesting that, but that is so far out there that i just can’t take that part of the show seriously. It is down right silly to me. I just think that what this cult is could never exist in the America that is now and therefore feels so fake as to make their world building completely unrealistic to the extreme or really it just means their world building is nonexistent. The problem is that they didn’t explain what is going on in their world that a cult like this could exist. It just does and i just have to accept that as part of the show. There is no world building except after the cult took over.
I don’t want to talk about politics, but yeah people have been saying a lot of nonsense lately in the politics, but no one is taking away all that stuff. That just feels really fake to me. Sure there are crazy people out there, but they aren’t the majority and the world will move forward. People who voted for Trump, voted for Obama. There are other things going on here. I am at the point where i think, let’s all just wait twenty years and see where we are at sort of place. Sure, go out there and protest, write your congresspersons, vote, do all that stuff. People can believe what they want and it is going to be okay.
I totally get though how if you feel that way about the state of the world, that you might feel that this is realistic. I don’t feel that way and feel like this is so out there as to be nonsensical. Impossible now, impossible in 200 years. There could be an end to America, but it wouldn’t be this end.
I think the idea in the real world that people seem to think that others aren’t allowed to think differently then them and try and pass laws about how they think is a much bigger problem then what those people i disagree with are saying. That is just me.
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ParticipantNimue was a terrible episode, in my opinion. Though people liked it because it was dark one back story. It seems to generally be regarded as inconsistent and a pretty anti climactic backstory. Though at the time, some people liked it just because it gave us some answers about the dark one and that it seemed like it would lead to some bigger mythology which did not happen because the arc just ending up not making sense and being about Hook being the dark one instead.
I actually, don’t find the end of Season 6 to really be the ending or to really be all that important. Agree to disagree, but those episodes were boring for me. The only thing that was interesting was thinking about which parts of the final episode were actually supposed to originally be part of the story and which were not. Agree to disagree.
hjbau
ParticipantI don’t even remember what episode the Apprentice is and i agree that the Shepherd was one of the weaker episodes from Season 1, but i have never been a Charming fan.
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ParticipantI think it is just because the final episodes are newer so people have seen them less. I think it is as simple as that and there is nothing wrong with that. That is something that happens. It feels fresher and therefore more exciting as apposed to something that we saw many years ago. It is just a trick of familiarity.
An episode like Red Handed was really well written, with great character, and a great twist. It is a hundred times better then anything in Season 6. It is just older and about a character that has been gone for awhile. I haven’t voted for anything in the late seasons yet either.
hjbau
ParticipantI still can’t believe the final three episodes of the last season are still in. At least there are only a few from the last three seasons left and around ten from the other three.
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I am still really having a motivation problem. I get the commander. I think the hyper version of male superiority and privilege is what they are going for with that character. There is nothing in the United States that could become exactly what he is, but it is a version of a thing that exists.
I get June and the other handmaids. They are all just trying to survive though how it came to this has yet to be explained.
I just don’t get Serena at all. Here she wrote books. She even wrote some of these laws. But now she can’t read or be involved and is upset about it, so why? Why is so so angry at June when this is a situation of her own creation? Did they grow up in this cult and if so then why is so so angry about this lifestyle? It doesn’t seem like they did grow up in the cult. They are playing at being zealots like someone else wrote to get power, to get a child, but what is the value in doing it this way. This bizarre ritualized way where the handmaid is like living in the house, like why do any of this? It didn’t seem like they joined the cult out of fear. They seemed to be early members and that is why the commander is a leader. There is just something there that feels inconsistent to me.
Nick is just ridiculous. I think the idea of someone who got caught up in it all as a collaborator makes sense. I just can’t quite tell if the show wants us to like him or not. Putting his hand on June’s stomach and being happy about it was just weird with the soft floaty music. I just don’t know what they are doing there because we know that June cannot trust him.
Why didn’t Moira take the notes to Canada if she was going to run? I guess she didn’t know what they were. I would much rather see more Moira and Emily and just much less Serena.
I think that it is a good point that we have the fake zealots like the Waterfords and then the true believers and we do see the conflict in that. I think that they just aren’t going to explain how a cult like this grew to this size in the United States and was able to take over. I am going to have to let that go even though it makes some of the characters motivations not work for me. I think that June and the handmaids struggle is the only compelling thing going on in this show and i do find that well done.
hjbau
ParticipantI can’t believe so many people voted for the Season 6 finale episodes, but some people just vote for the newest thing that happened. I get that.
hjbau
ParticipantThis seems like a Rumpel friendly pole, so i am still going to go with Manhattan. Though, something like the Pilot or A Land Without Magic are always an easy fall back when all the things that are just certain fandom specific fall away.
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