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Well isn’t the order kind of like showing the 2 power couples kind of deal and then the 2 villains? It shows Snowing together than Captain Swan together than the two villains.
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[adrotate group="5"]@RumplesGirl wrote:
Yeah he’s a terrible villain. đ I can’t remember who said it but somewhere on these forums someone once described Hook as either “a good guy in a villains body or a villain in a good guys body.”
The only thing is, how is Maleficiant alive in SB? Emma killed her?
The writers said that. “He’s a hero trapped inside a villains body or a villain trapped inside a heroes body”.
That actually to me went well with the whole Peter Pan=Killian theory.
Ideally you can say that the Killian Jones is the person he was before the hook and he was a ladies man, courageous, a leader, cocky… all qualities associated with Pan in his youth and he did know about Neverland before he went there with the Hook which to me suggests that he and his crew have been to Neverland before. This is also encouraging of the theory, traditionally in every adaptation of the tale Hook’s crew hates him, yet on Once his crew has loads of respect for him and treat him like a brother and vice verca. This could suggest the traditional conclusion of the tale. When Pan beats the original Captain the lost boys become his crew on The Jolly Roger. In this adaptation they might have left Neverland on the JR and all grew up alongside their leader.
He meets Milah( a mother no less) which is probably what attracted her to him. Pan always looked to a mother figure like Wendy. He then becomes Captain Hook and returns to the place where as a youth he knew so well, returning strictly with revenge on his mind. Since he’s an adult though he needs another way to get there, so that’s where the magical bean enters into the equation.
The only time we have ever really seen the Killian Jones side and not the Captain Hook side was when he went up the beanstalk with Emma. I think that’s the best time where we saw whom Killian was in The Crocodile flashback. Other times have been when he was talking to Emma in the hospital and saving Aurora’s heart.
To me the purpose of the quote is a new take on the rivalry between Hook and Pan. This time it’s all an inner struggle inside of Killian Jones. He has his Pan side which is Killian Jones and he has his Captain Hook side and they clash inside of him consistently.
Yes though everything that the show is doing with Hook’s character completely contradicts him being a villain. He’s clearly not really a villain at all. When he gets bested and screwed by every other vindictive villain, when his return draws sympathy from the audience instead of trouble for SB, and when more than likely he’s going to be fighting a dragon in the upcoming episode which only the heroes have ever done(Emma and Charming).
It’s also called Kingdom Hearts not Kingdom of Hearts, sorry that’s my favorite video game franchise of all time. đ
Here is my theory.
Hook is going to get betrayed by all 3 people in the next episode. In the end he will either escape from Malificent or beat her and then he will tell Emma what’s about to happen. He will tell her about Gregmara as well as Regina’s plan cementing him to her side and choosing to aid her and The Charmings.
This has always been the case with Hook. The way he was first introduced was that of a romantic character, he was not introduced as a villain. He has sucked at being a villain. It’s hard to view him as a villain when every single other more vindictive bad guy always screws him over and leaves him in the end. The way he returned was not that of a bad guy. If it was we would have gotten a SB is in danger now vibe. Instead we feel sympathy with Hook because he was gagged and tied up by Tamara and treated like an animal.
This is all necessary though so Hook can finally choose Emma and The Charmings side. Maybe then he will start realizing that he can succeed as long as he picks the right side.
Hook to me is portraying the misinterpreted bad guy turned good guy in the end. Could also go with the whole Killian=Peter theory.
Bae’s definitely not Pan though I do think he was a member of Hook’s crew or a lost boy that Hook watched over in Neverland.
Pretty sure the dragon is Mushu not Malificent. Speaking of Malificent she's in Sunday's episode in dragon form. Yeah more than likely Regina snakily betrays Hook by leading him to the cave to get what she needs for a spell and then leaves him to fight the dragon.
This one…
https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/326824631443013632
VERY IMPORTANT.
He says before season finale, they announced at Paleyfest that the season finale is a two parter. So that means this scene is more than like THIS SUNDAY!
Hook gets back stabbed by 3 people, including Regina. Whom going from sneak peeks, the promo, and the new spoilers goes with Regina down to Maleficent's cave and then Regina snakily betrays him and leaves him there to fight the dragon. He fights the dragon and escapes and goes to find Emma and warn her about everything that's about to transpire.
That's my theory but to me this says we are getting a CS scene more than likely this sunday because we know 21/22 is a 2 part finale.
So, what can fans look forward to in the final three episodes of the season?
Eddy: Well, I think the fans can look forward to kind of the culmination of everything we set up this year. Who are Greg and Tamara, who do they work for, do they work for anyone, whatâs their agenda?
Adam: Whatâs really behind everything theyâre doing, and how is that going to impact on every single one of our characters? I think weâre bringing all those things to a head in a way we find exciting, and we think hopefully will be really surprising to the audience as well.
Eddy: We are going to dive more into how Lacy affects Rumpelstiltskin, or Mr. Gold, and how that affects his relationship with his son.Obviously, Lacy enjoying Rumplestiltskinâs darker side is a bit of a weight off his shoulders, unless, of course, she gets her actual memory back, in which case youâve got to wonder, is she going to be twice as horrified?
Eddy: Well, it depends what he does when heâs with Lacy, I suppose, you know? Belle brings out the best in Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin, and Lacy brings out the worst, and itâs a lot easier to have someone bring out the worst in you. You get to try a lot less.
So the last two episodes are titled âSecond Star to the Rightâ and âAnd Straight On âTil Morning.â
Adam: (grinning) Just randomly titled. No significance to those titles at all.
Eddy: We are going to be finding out a bit about Baelfire, and Captain Hook. Thereâs no coincidence with those titles.
Adam: Obviously, weâd like to keep a surprise, but you know, Baelfire/Neal and Hook have a connection that weâve already hinted at, and thatâs something thatâs explored in the final two hours of the season. And that may involve a second star to the right.Fans have been speculating a lot about Neal and his connection to Hookâperhaps in the form of a boy who never grows up?
Eddy: Yes, we could say so far, nobodyâs been right.
Adam: Well, that we know of. Our fans are very smart, and maybe theyâve got it, maybe they havenât, but we hope itâs a surprise. We can confirm heâs not Smee.
Eddy: By the way, I donât know if you know this or not, but rewatching Peter Pan, which weâve done on numerous times, the clock, Big Ben, is set to 8:15 in the movie. Itâs at 8:14, and when the kids land on it, it goes to 8:15. [NOTE: 8:15 is the time the town’s clock in Storybrooke was stuck at before Emma appeared in the first episode of season one.]
Coincidence?Adam: Or not.
Youâve said that a new character will be teased but not revealed until Season Three.
Eddy: In the final two hours, you will hear about someone, you will think about someone, but you wonât see that someone âtil next year.
Any other big moments to look for?
Eddy: Emma and Regina have a game-changer.
Adam: Their relationship is going to change. It moves to a new place.
Last year you teased we never saw Maleficentâs body after she was killed.
Eddy: Well, we saw, and we will see Maleficent in some form in the final three episodes. In fact, I would watch this weekâs episode âThe Evil Queen.â
Side Note:
This explains the BTS of Hook and Regina in a cave and Regina snakily betrays him which more than likely means she sets up a trap so he can fight Dragon Maleficent.
http://d23.disney.go.com/news/2013/04/d23-presents-once-upon-a-times-season-finale-surprises/
Moderator’s Edit: I went ahead and merged these two topics because they are for the same interview. Thanks Everyone–RG
@Surayya wrote:
@Hookian wrote:
I have taken loads of film editing classes and have been properly trained in the field but to then be dismissed just because according to someone I saw the scene with CS shipper in me.
No I don’t watch the show looking for every knick and cranny that may be for my couple I just watch the show and I have taken loads of classes and know what to look to when it comes to camera angles, editing, etc.
The whole Neal/Emma preamble to Hook’s return connecting basically that Emma needs Hook and it was the least subtle thing in the world. On top of that they did it earlier on in the episode when Regina said that if Bae can’t do it then there is nothing that can save Rumple’s humanity than we cut to a scene of Belle. That’s intentional editing and it’s done on purpose.
It’s not because I may be a CS shipper, no one should be judged on that preference. I’m more than just a CS shipper.
Hookian, I’m confused- to what are you referring to?
As far as I can see, no one has dismissed you on this thread…or did this happen in another thread? đ đ đOther thread, I was dismissed by 3 ST shippers. Which is kind of telling in and of itself.
