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Also it sounds like some of the BA CSers and the anti-Neal/Baelfire fans are still hating on MJR even when he is not on Once Upon a Time anymore and even seemed to have follow him to his new project and insult him from there.
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MillieParticipantUnless MJR is secretly coming back, the writers, crew and the cast have no real reason of treating MJR like this unless something bad happened between MJR and the writiers/cast/crew.
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MillieParticipantMakes you wonder if they even care about Neal/Baelfire. So many miss opportunities and potential stories to be told for the character…
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MillieParticipant@ Rainbow what bother’s me is the show is setting up so majority of the fandom to root for a good character to die. Granting we all knows she dies, but still I don’t like the fact that this show is prodding people to root for the death of a good person so that the two people can get together. They were already having romantic involvement, why do this. Why ripped a mother from her son twice, why make a man lose a person he loves twice. We already did that with Neal. I don’t understand that. I see no story reasoning behind it. Does Happy endings mean good people have to die so that former villains get theirs. Poor actress she is going to be sent through the ringer with this fandom. I dread the hate tweets she will received. And poor Marian would probably be twisted or viewed as some conniving witch who can never do or say anything right. Then she would die and her family would cry for 1 or 2 episodes and shrugged their shoulders as they moved forward to the next plot point.
With that saying, I love and enjoy some villains as well but I would never agree with any of their methods or wrong doings nor would I condone them. I don’t even agree with some of the things that good guys do. But understanding, justifying or condoning their actions are three different things. I do realize that people tend to excuse and forgive the actions of the characters (no matter how cruel or vile they are) they like best verses those characters they don’t particularly care for. Just look at Neal, Hook, Rumple, and Regina, Neal is the most innocent out of the four yet the most condemn.
That is what perturbs me the most, because they put the fans in a position to root for a character death, yes is a character not real, but still this is a good character, not some villain.Also is true, that Neal was always more hated than even the villains, and i think that helped in some way deciding that Neal death was the only solution , since they get rid of one problem and dont need to say more about him or his story. I even bet if ABC decided to bring back from death all characters that died, but saying that one of them will needed to say dead for real, im sure that the majority of fandom would want Neal to stay death, against all the villains that died so far . This is a lot to blame on the writers, they should have develop Neal before 214, so what we knew that he was Bae, Emma, Henry and Rumple didnt knew. Why not make Neal go to Sb after the postcard, or why not show him on NY on his life, like this everyone could judge or not if they like Neal or not. Becaus the Neal situation is a lot like when you say, i dont like this food, but never taste it, so how can you know that you wont like it? This happened with Neal, they didnt develop him, unlike with Hook, and when they show Neal and Emma, the episode ended in a way that let many people to believe Neal was a scumbag that didnt deserved Emma or Henry, and kept develop Hook as some poor guy that was doing revenge in name of love, and that if emma give him a chance he would help her and would not care about Cora, so i guess that by the end, people were already with this idea that Neal didnt deserved to be happy and no way this person was that sweet kid we saw in S1 and on fb, another undevelop character, people didnt saw Neal and Bae as one, i mean, even the own writers didnt saw him like that, 315 was an example, for them Neal betrayed Emma, didnt look for her after the postcard, found a fiance very quickly, was running from his father, treated rumple bad after everything he done for him, used roland and magic to get the shadow to come to take him to NVL, abandoned his father instead of putting his son on 1st place, fight with hook over a lighter( the fact that hook also fought means nothing), and all the other things people blame Neal for, the thing is even the fact that Neal was breathing was a problem, so they took care of that problem, but with that problem they ended the life of a young boy that only wanted a family and a home, and that loved his son, his father and emma, and in the end none of this cared much that he died, or even tried to change things. I saw something on twiter that reminded me of this : “If it is important enough to you, you will find a way. If it is not, you will find an excuse”, this was what happened not only onscreen with the characters, but also publicly with the writing team regarding Neal and i may say in BTS with the cast regarding MRJ.
It is pretty much what I keep saying before. It feels like Neal/Baelfire never really got the development and story arcs that he deserves. It is like they want to purposely under-write him in attempt to make people hate or get disinterested in him in attempt to make him look bad for Emma or that people will complain less if he dies permanently. Seriously, I wonder if they even try when they wrote his character sometimes!
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MillieParticipantHopefully A&E will do better next season or those who are put off by how they wrote this season might never come back.
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MillieParticipantHopefully Henry doesn’t get killed next…
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MillieParticipantAlso there is two whole Twitter blog dedicated to anti-CS and anti SF so if we want to yell about each pairing, we can just go there.
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MillieParticipantHopefully that person would be respectful enough and leave the thread.
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MillieParticipantHey at least he/she isn’t one of the more brutal/extremely unreasonable ones! My gosh some of those CS fans can be extremely brutal.
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MillieParticipantI read somewhere that it apparently some EmmaxHook fan might want to start a trend about trying “keep Neal dead” in response to the whole “stop once upon a hook” trend. They pretty much want to do anything in their power to keep Neal dead just some people are against Hook! I mean like chances are Neal won’t come back alive anytime soon but that things like a attack to Neal/Baelfire fans and not everyone that is against Hook are Neal/Baelfire fans and SF fans. Seriously!
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