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Jenna_B
ParticipantOK: cassowaries and tame budgie…this American gal has no idea what these are but they just sound incredibly scary! uuuugh. Kiwis sound ok though. Maybe. 🙂
How ’bout some more Husbands of Storybrooke? Seriously they never get old for me!!
On this episode of Real Husbands of Storybrooke:Someone’s still jealous.
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Participant@Jenna_B I think the audience of Hımym feels betrayed after the finale just the whole 9 seasons didn’t meant anything after the last 3 minutes of the show. I hope A&E wouldn’t fall for that mistake. I mean the problem wasn’t the fact that show didn’t end the way we want but it ended a way that just made whole story meaningless .Lİke you say they didn’t built the story that way And I too think that our experience in love and life reflects who we ship on Once. I myself had a Neal too just like you we met when we were 14 grow up together we were at the same class whole high school first love,first real relationship and moreover we were best friends. And when he broke my heart he acted cowardly and eventually he choose to be with someone else he met in university. 2 years past now this is my last year in college didn’t even date with someone not because i still have any feelings for him. I don’t love him or hate him. i just can’t get over the fact how my Neal broke my heart. He broke the trust i have for love and people which i had only a few. And i just don’t want to feel hurt and unloved, unwanted anymore. And there this guy i kinda like he is smart and has a kind heartd but and the feelings i have towards him scares the crap out of me because i dont wanna get hurt again which leads me to push him away So you see this is why i ship CS and i really think their love is stronger than Sf because of course first love was innocent and precious. And of course first loves stay with you forever but you know what is stronger the love that makes you get over your first love the man who works so hard to earn your trust to make you feel secure and happy again. The love that is not childish or dreamy but real and still felts so good. I think Hook&Emma’s relationship will be deeper than SF’s relationship cause they worked so hard to built it and also wrecked those walls they built for themselves.
Beautiful post, @ilayda! As an “elder” in the thread, I give you the same totally unsolicited advice I’ve given the other youngin’s – go for it! Don’t let the pain hold you back – so much easier said than done, but so worth it as well. The farther you get from the pain, and the more you allow yourself to open up to new people, the more you realize how far you’ve come, how strong you are for going through the pain and surviving, and that the bad experiences taught you important lessons and at least know you know (which, strangely, can be quite powerful…) just being able to learn as much as you obviously have from your past is more than some people have the courage to do! 🙂 Just look at our Emma! She’s going to be so much fun now that she doesn’t want to live in the past anymore!
What a beautiful theme song our ship has….sigh, swoon, sigh…that’s the first time I’ve ever actually listened to it, outside of watching the show – you know, when you’re overcome with things like smoochies and guys dropping all kinds of fancy and romantic words and whatnot. (I’ll be honest, I don’t know how I feel about those birds though…but then, I have an irrational fear of birds. Seriously. They’re the devil’s creatures…*shudders*)
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ParticipantAdmittedly, yes, if any relationship/character development is going to fall to the wayside, I agree it will likely be Rumple/Henry’s. Which is very unfortunate. I think Rumple would thrive as a grandfather, and it would help keep him on the right path…but the writers have set up a LOT for Rumple to deal with so it would be hard to fit in the happy Rumple/Henry bonding. But I don’t think it’s the writers intent to purposely keep them apart/forget the fact that they’re related and share Neal as their common bond. It’s more they’ve got more on their plate they can address. You know, like usual with A&E! I would like to see Rumple become more instrumental in Henry’s upbringing though. They’ve really got the whole ‘it takes a village to raise a kid’ thing going, and Rumple is an important part of said village.
It’ll be interesting in general to see where they go with Rumple’s arc and the others’ arc. For once I have no idea where they’re headed going into the next season/half season. Other than they’re obviously milking the Frozen thing and they’ll have to address the killing Zelena thing…!
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ParticipantMy problem is that ‘realm’ has never clearly been defined. Like, are realms alternate universes? Is Oz, Wonderland, Where-Is-Frankenstein-From-Again?, EF, etc separate universes but Philora’s, George’s, Snowing/Regina’s kingdoms within the EF? And the forests…? You get the idea. I let the writers play fast and loose with the ‘rules’ since it’s a fantasy but that is one thing that needs to be at least somewhat clear, in my opinion.
And thanks all, you gave me quite the headache this afternoon! 🙂
After thinking about realms and universes I started on magic – how does it work? Like, if I want to poof up an apple, where does the stuff like the molecules and atoms and other science-y stuff that make up the apple come from? If I poof Hook’s hook from his brace to the light, does it break down into tiny little atoms and fly over there and rebuild or what? Yeah, thanks. What a way to spend and afternoon!
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Participant@ilayda, that’s actually an excellent distinction! I hadn’t even watched HIMYM in a couple of years but I tuned in for the finale. I could NOT believe the ending. I think they were trying to make everyone happy but doing that was a real cop out. If they wanted to end it that way, there should’ve been a little buildup but the closer they got to the finale, the more it seemed it wasn’t going to end that way.
I think we can trust A&E not to pull something like that. Like you said, there’s been clues galore since scene 1 with Emma & Hook….AND Emma & Neal.
On tumblr someone was taking a random poll (I think we did one here last hiatus!) asking how old CSers were…I think we skewed mid-20s to mid-30s, which was the same on this thread. I think that says something. I’m guessing CS is made up more of people who have been burned romantically once or twice, and have had to go through the struggle of healing from that and moving on.
I suspect (and this is based on zero science) SF is more comprised of people who are younger and haven’t been through the heartbreak, or people who covet that mom & dad married, raising their child together ideal.
Neither group is bad (except of course the loud septic ones every ship has) but I think when it comes to shipping, people’s own live experiences play a big part in it, and that’s probably why people become so passionate about their ship. I know I had my own ‘Neal’ when I was younger – someone who really wasn’t a bad guy, but couldn’t make a decision to save his life (cough *allowing Emma to go to jail* cough), and I was usually the one negatively affected when he did ‘step up’. And the “I never believed in your ‘superpower'” remark in S2…that one still grates because I could totally hear my ex putting me down (because really, that’s exactly what Neal did there) like that. And it took me a really long time to get over it and learn the lessons the experience presented, so as much as I don’t think there’s anything really bad about Neal, it would take a LOT of showing him work to earn Emma’s love and respect back before I could really get behind the ship, had they gone that route.
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ParticipantI actually have the opposite opinion when it comes to Henry and Rumple. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rumple take a more active role in Henry’s life. They are each other’s strongest connection to Neal. I can see Belle really emcouraging Rumple to do so. The problem is the mess Rumple made with the dagger and killomg Zelena…and if anything that might get in the way of family bonding depending on how they handle it.
They have barely interacted so far because they barely know each other. And that pesky Rumple was going to kill Henry thing…so it might take some time but I definitely can see the relationship moving forward
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ParticipantI’d never thought of that, but you’re right, @Surayya! Yes, we definitely need to see the EF through Henry’s eyes, it would be so much fun. Haha, the ‘boys’ go camping…I can see it now.
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ParticipantBut have they ever specifically stated the ENTIRETY of the EF was taken in the curse? The original curse itself doesn’t make much sense to me — time stopped in all lands so easy peasy! Zelena’s the same age as her sister and not 30 years older come 3B! but not everyone in every land got scooped up and brought to our land? Why not? And now all-powerful was this curse if Cora was able to poke her little staff thingy on the ground and send up a giant bubble of protection?
Again, most definitely, it’s a stretch saying the ol’ Captain was able to outrun the curse. I agree. It would’ve made more sense to me to just say the curse didn’t reach that far or something. But if you can stretch your imagination enough to accept Regina’s initial casting of the curse, I don’t think it should be so difficult to believe there were ways around curse 2.0…
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ParticipantI’m going to take a bit more of a moderate stance on this one…
Ultimately, I don’t think ANYONE on OUAT is more or less evil or good than anyone else. I think the point is, each and every one of the characters has the ability to be as good or as bad as they so choose. I think it’s important to remember that each character has free will (for the most part, excluding the whole Rumple was Zelena’s slave part) and for the most part, has chosen how to act and react to the life they’ve been dealt. Example – if it were Charming who was called into the Ogre Wars – would he have listened to some crazy gal with her eyes on her hands and purposely injure himself; essentially kicking off Rumple’s storyline and decent? No, he probably wouldn’t. That doesn’t make Charming good and Rumple bad, it’s just that each person would have made their own decision in that matter. If Snow and Regina’s fates were reversed, would Snow have become the Evil Queen? I don’t think she would, no matter how much Rumple tried to get her to give in to her darker side. But, Snow was capable of letting Cora die, and chose to essentially kill Cora.
Yes, their pasts all play a part in it. Snow and Regina are both different, partly because of how they grew up, and same with Rumple, etc. But you can’t be a slave to your past. You can’t blame everything on other people, because ultimately, you are responsible for your own choices. So, I don’t think you can sit down and compare Person A to Person B and say A is more evil. Because they all have the potential for good and they all have the potential for evil.
We all know hope, true love, home are huge themes on OUAT. But I think the concept of choice is also a big focus, though played out less blatantly. Playing the Blame Game is now you get into serious trouble with this show – and I think the writers do that on purpose, go get the viewers to sit and give pause…of course, I think they sometimes underestimate some of their viewers’ passion for the show and their own personal favorites…. 😉
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ParticipantI always understood the first curse to take only Regina/Snow’s kingdom and maybe some surrounding areas, with the exception of the people caught under Cora’s bubble. But I never understood it to mean the curse took the entire realm. Because how do you fit an entire realm of people into one town? And didn’t they say at some point Regina could choose certain people who would absolutely get caught up in her curse? Anyway, since this 2nd curse was essentially a recast of the 1st curse, I figured it worked pretty much the same way. And if Ariel and Eric were outside the curse’s limits, I would assume Hook and the ship may have been pretty close to the edge as well, as I’d assume he’d be in closer proximity to Ariel than Regina and Snowing.
In regard to the bean – Because what’s ‘impossible’ to one person isn’t necessarily ‘impossible’ to another person. Hook was still a pirate…he probably knew some not-so-socially-moral people who dabble in ‘hard-to-get’ goods…even Smee was able to procure difficult to find things. Heck, even in our world that’s a reality. I can’t buy a kidney on eBay, but if I really want to buy a kidney, there are ways to get my hands on one! So although they’re difficult to procure, I think a pirate would be able to make a deal with someone shady to get what he needed to get where he needed. And his group of ‘friends’ may be willing to trade with one of their own, but that doesn’t mean they’re willing to trade with the Dark One or the Evil Queen – hence the ‘gone’ and ‘impossible’.
Yes, it’s a stretch, even for me. But we’re also not talking reality here. I have a much easier time believing magical, fantastic things could happen in the EF than what they’ve suggested has happened in our realm! I still don’t get how Neal still had his apt over more than a year!!! And seriously, where did Emma get school transcripts for Henry when Storybrooke went poof?! 🙂
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