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Its not so much what you are playing, but who you are playing with that is important. I remember feeling so special as a child on the yacht while sailing around great barrier, when the adults allowed me to join in their game of cards one night
Yes, I have similar memories… its the company not the game.
As my hubby points out, that was Killian being a “dad” hanging out with Henry and passing down a traditional thing guys do together. The kid has never had a man in his life – even when he did know Neal he knew him for all of about 6 hot seconds. Trust me, as a woman there are PLENTY of times I freak out about stuff my son says or does but men will stop me and tell me I HAVE to let it go because it is a guy thing and I DON’T understand. And I’m talking about pastors at my church telling me that I need to let him be a guy.
I get the same thing from my husband and two of my brother in laws… that they are boys. The things they do though…. lol. I just dont get it. So I will have to agree that it must be a male thing.
[adrotate group="5"]I had to laugh – I actually loved the dice scene. Not a fan of cheating at anything and it’s not that I want Henry to do anything “bad” but look at his family tree. Loaded dice are NOT the end of the world when both his birth parents were thieves, his adoptive mother was the Evil Queen, his grandmother was a bandit, his grandfather on the other side is the Dark One. Killian playing dice games for french fries and laughing and having fun?
lol – so true
I have mixed feelings about Jolly Roger. I wanted Hook to have one person/Disney Princess believe in him and see the good in him. Someone who will stick up for him when the other princess bag on him. Emma is attracted to Hook but she doesn’t really take his side or try to see the good in him. I think there has been a miniscule change in that, but she keeps him at arms length. She always seems surprised that he does something good. Everyone has these low expectations of him but refuse to give him much credit for any good he does. I would get tired of everyone if they never gave me a chance no matter what I did. In order for him to be seen as good, he basically needs to be a saint to convince anyone and that isn’t realistic. Snow and Emma were totally prepared to fight Mulan to keep the compass and let Aurora die, just to get home to Henry. Hook is expected to give up his ship/home for a bratty stranger who clocked him in the head, held a knife at him and acted like a toddler about the cloak. I love Ariel but she is like a little kid who is oblivious to the needs of others in a somewhat good hearted way.
some really good points sweetgrass and I agree, Ariel was a little one sided but I guess desperation is a contagious issue on that show.
Killian Jones wrote: Also about the dice… it’s a guy thing c’mon get over it anyone being picky about that is just nitpicking Hook’s other questionable decisions I can understand but Captain Cobra bonding over dice? I know right?! I was shocked to hear people even have a problem with it at all. I have 3 brothers & they all cheated at games as kids- I was forever calling them out at it & they thought it was great fun trying to pull the wool over us (my sister & I) lol. I dont get why people have a problem with Hook & dice, but Charming is ok to take a 12yr old driving for the 1st time through the center of town?! Double standards much!
its all in good fun… as long as Henry doesnt start hustling the local kids I dont see any harm. All my cousins my age are all boys and they too cheated. we are all in our late 30s now and its STILL one of the family jokes. Who embezzled, who cheated, who was the con man… etc
We just have to ignore them… come on – they found fault with Hook for NOT sleeping with a Hooker ( he he – not a Hooker like us though ). If someone can find a downside with not sleeping with a prostitute then there is just no use debating – they have NO logic or rational – or common sense. lol – so I guess Hook can bring Henry to the local brothel and get him his first woman and that would be ok – as long as there is no gambling in that establishment.
Quoted Rumplegoldfan: Also having to say something about Emma holding Killian’s hook/wrist in the promo. All those guilty of reading CS fanfic where Killian is ashamed of having Emma touch his naked wrist/stump raise your hand!!! ( end quote ) Guiltly… gives me a Hook fix when I have just a few moments. lol. Yes – this is a reoccurring theme and I thought the same thing when I saw the promos.
Quoted Rumplegoldfan : We just had self-loathing Killian episode and now we are going to have Killian kind of pulling away from Emma because he doesn’t know what to do about the kissing curse while at the same time Emma has decided she wants Killian.(end quote ) yup, now he that he CANT kiss her he is going to be like Cat Nip and stubborn ass Emma is going to make our poor guy sweat.
Quoted Rumplegoldfan : I can’t wait to see that scene because if there is anyone who can pull off the 16 different emotions that are going through Killian’s mind in one close-up it is Colin!!(end quote) sooo true. He really does convey Hook’s feelings so well. especially the kicked puppy dog look
We know that the most traumatic thing Killian has seen was when Rumple ripped Milah’s heart out and crushed in front of him. She died in his arms and there was nothing he could do. He also has deep guilt over his relationship with Bae, he is trying to honor Bae by watching over Henry and telling him about his father, but he also loves Henry because he is Emma’s son. I firmly believe that we have been given a few hints and seen a few things now that show us that Emma uses her love for and thoughts of Killian as the stimulus for her strongest powers. The WW has now cursed Killian’s love and by extension, threatened both Emma and Henry. This is basically a complete repeat of history. With both Milah and Bae Killian was left feeling helpless, guilty, and empty. What Killian NEEDS now is to know that HE is Emma’s strength. He needs to know that it doesn’t matter if the WW has cursed his love for Emma because THEIR love is strength. Because she relies on HIM, her magic can overcome any curse placed on his love because just like when Cora was unable to rip Emma’s heart out – the WW won’t be able to take her power away because it is grounded in THEIR love. Killian NEEDS to know this. I think this is what will help him overcome his self-loathing. He knows he loves Emma but so far he doesn’t think TLK worked. People talk about Snowing “being” TL. Emma and Killian don’t realize that they ARE TL. Killian IS TL. The odd thing is until this last episode I was convinced that Emma was the one who was going to be the one dragging her feet to admitting she loves Killian but now I have the feeling that Emma is the one who is going to recognize a whole lot faster that they are TL and I think she is going to have to convince Killian that he is worthy of her love. The only way I think she can do that is for him to realize that she thinks of him to boost her powers.
I love this post.
So I think poor Killy will have angst over this for awhile and then Emma will be like “No problem, pucker up – TLK and all remember?” In which case Killian will be shocked 1) because she actually loves him at all and 2) because he will discover why TLK didn’t work this first time.
🙂 love that.
The more I think about it the more I am okay with how everything went down in this episode. I think a lot of “Hook Haters” had a semi-valid point regarding Hook changing just for Emma because you couldn’t prove it one way or the other. Now with hope of her pretty much lost it is a lot easier to prove that Hook is changing *because* of Emma and her impact on him. Emma re-awakened Killian Jones and he is going to battle internally between KJ who wants to be an honorable man for himself and Hook who has suffered for hundreds of years and has lost everyone he loves. I think this was shown really well with his “you can’t go back. I have tried and it doesn’t work.” The Killian side of him is expressing guilt and self-loathing that he cannot ignore so he is no longer able to be happy with the pirate life anymore.
yes – he was Hook and Jones only started to resurface when he found Bae. When Bae rejected him Hook rose up and Jones was buried again. Pair this up with Jenna B’s thought on how Killian and Hook are at 2 opposites of the spectrum. They really are polar opposites.
I think that is why he had such issues going back to the EF. I agree with Rumplegoldfan that it would be OOC for Hook to do these shady things… if he was still in SB with Emma. Without her to be his goal – he is lost and he doesnt know which man he is anymore, which to be. Not to mention that he needs to survive – that means Hook mode.
As Jones he had the navy and rules – as Hook he had his revenge and then Emma. He needs something… he needs a goal / direction. The man that landed in the EF doesnt have anything to help him and he has no hope. I agree with Jenna B he needs to figure a way to blend the two personalities – because with his guilt and Emma in his sights Jones is going to re-emerge. And I forget who brought it up… that he will always be both men – the dicing for fries was perfect. I loved that he was being responsible – ‘Henry’ sitting – but was teaching him to gamble and cheat. lol. as a mom i wouldnt want my son to have such skills but as the viewer here – that made me giggle.
The haters can say as they please, honestly EVERYONE who matters is all but screaming “it’s been leading up to CS the whole time” We are not wearing shipping goggles, but the haters ARE. Those that say they havent seen any indication of Emma’s feelings toward Hook etc. & CS is happening to fast, need to go rewatch the show from S2 on WITHOUT THEIR HATER GOGGLES ON! Emma lost Neal over a decade ago, his death was simply a means to put that chapter of her life to bed once & for all- like she said ‘he reminder her of all that pain & his death would make it easier for her to move on’, while that is how the cookie crumbled & she has truly moved on now. I’m sorry if that sound harsh to any NF or Sf fans reading this, but it is the truth. Emma & Hook had a connection from the moment they meet, Emma felt ‘something’ for him right from the start- enough to scar her into betraying him- just in case! From that moment on, CS has been the slow burning, TL story smoulding away in the background of many episodes all through S2, then it became a growing blaze in 3A, now in 3B its a roaring fire, I can only guess that S4 will see CS being the full on blazing bonfire we’ve been leading up too, right along side Snowing, Rumbelle & OQ
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I think we need to just take a moment to also appreciate just how bat sh… poop crazy Zelena is in this scene- not only is she torturing Killy, she apparently gets all excited over feeding kids to monkeys … I mean it takes a special kind of crazy, twisted, sadistic, psycho to get a kick out of feeding children to their pets o.O …. really going to enjoy seeing team CS bring her down for good- no hugging it out this time :/
She is doing a great job in my opinion. She is mean and you dont want to root for her and you want them to take her down… hard. She isnt a Villain I am hoping finds redemption… I cant wait until they dump a bucket of water on her.
