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Also the original reason for statutory rape laws was to protect young women, in case they got pregnant and the father won’t help with supporting the child and mother. But due to changing society, the purpose is kinda different now. I personally think that it should be higher than 18 though – I don’t mean to offend anyone but a teenager rarely knows what they want when it comes to this area. They’re to caught up on their lust to know what they want. Which is part of the reason why I dont believe that Neal/Emma were in love.
[adrotate group="5"]@PJSparkles wrote:
Honestly, I don’t consider 17 to be statutory rape. It depends on the 17 year old and if the older party is trying to take advantage. Also the state I’m from, 17 is legal. 17 isn’t necessarily less mature than 18 and in some cases someone’s 17 is better than another person’s 21. The fact is regardless of the circumstances, could Emma and Neal have truly loved each other? From all we’ve seen I say yes. IMHO neither Emma nor Neal did anything that discounts this fact. Leaving, I could see myself leaving someone I truly love (especially if I’m convinced they are better off or it’s their destiny–Neal clearly believes in fate). The fact that Neal gave Emma his car and a large sum of money is not cowardly abandonment. He wanted her to do well. As a woman burned by love before, I can tell you that when I’ve still loved someone, I would have acted the same way Emma did in the bar. If she was over him, she’d be all “screw you, I don’t need this”. The fact is she showed weakness then. She demanded answers and demonstrated that having this information was important to her. She still cares. Does this mean they’ll get back together? I have no clue.
I have to disagree with you there. People are different. Just because she wanted answers doesn’t mean that she still loves him. I too know what it’s like to ‘be burned by love’, and I can tell you, not everyone is the same.
In my opinion, she needed closure. She needed these answers not because she care or she loves him, but so she can finally close that hole in her chest and begin to put her walls down. Just because she showed weakness doesn’t mean that she still loves him. And now that she got these answers from him, the healing process can begin. I’m not saying that she can forgive him, but she can re-evaluate everything and begin to get close to someone again without being afraid of getting betrayed again.In the season 1 pilot episode, it was Emmas’ 28th birthday. On her birthday she pretty much moved to SB. A couple of months after moving to SB, it was almost christmas. This means that her birthday is near the end of the year, October maybe.
So she had Henry 10 years ago then, meaning she was 18 when she gave birth. I don’t think that Neal and Emma were together for very long – maybe a couple of months, the most. It couldn’t have been a whole year because they showed us the first ‘I love yous’, which generally (in tv shows) don’t take a year for. Also, Neal seemed really tired of the stealing, and he wanted to stop so I doubt he wouldve put up with it for a whole year.
Now Emma left her foster care when she was 16. Two years later (or almost 2 years), she becomes a thief. So she was 17, soon turning 18. Then she meets Neal. A couple of months later she gets pregnant at 18
– not 17…18. The directors of the show and JMO have actually stated this, I can’t find a link to the interview, but I did find it on the OUaT Emma Swan wiki page: http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Emma_Swan
I’ll keep looking for the interview though.Also, in case anyone is curious, Neal was born March 23, 1977. So I’m guessing he was about 24-25 when they met.
I understand why some people may think that Neal was being ‘selfless’, but in my opinion, that’s cowardice. He knew that his father would be where Emma would be going (why do you think he didn’t go to SB after he got the postcard). He was being selfish. He knew of Emmas’ past and all the hurt and trauma she had suffered since a young age – She had foster parents til she was 3 years old, but they sent her away when they had their own child. If he really loved her, he would have fought for her. Refused to let her go alone. Because he knew exactly what leaving her would do to her, but he didn’t care.
This isn’t ‘love’. I believe he was simply using her, because all this time he had been alone so he jumped at the first opportunity for someone to show affection to him which he probably hadn’t gotten since he was younger. Maybe it was lust, but it most definately wasn’t love.Even though Neal claims that he is nothing like his father, he couldn’t be more identical to him.
This just keeps getting better! How do the writers come up with this stuff. I’m loving all these new reveals and drama. 😀
@Sarah_TN wrote:
I saw some promotional pictures at Hypable for the next episode. Regina is holding a heart. I agree with one of the commenters. I think the heart is Hook's, and it is why he attacks David. He will be Regina and Cora’s puppet, and maybe in exchange for getting info on how he can get to Gold.
I thought that the reason Hook attacked Chaerming was to get his hook back from him. I don’t really see them taking his heart because they already got all the information they needed from him before they betrayed him. I think Hook is on his own for now. Regina probably threatens crushing the heart in her hand for the dagger, because Regina has said it before that the Charmings can’t help themselves but save people.
I don’t have a problem with anything on this show. I think that they have given a lot of thought with everything that they have done and the outcome is always good and meets my expectations. If I do have a small problem with something, I just think that there’s nothing that I can do about it – I don’t run the show, and that doesn’t mean that the whole show is bad just because of a little thing.
Baelfire being Henrys’ father – I had expected it since the start of this season. But that doesn’t mean that I’m not happy about it. I love how they went with this because now that Baelfire is Henrys’ father, they can do so much with it. I always love a bit of drama in a show; makes it interesting 🙂@Phee wrote:
If we assume that Tamara is someone from a magical land, which is reasonable to assume, considering there are pics of her in SB and they don’t like non-magical peeps in town, I’d also assume that Neal doesn’t know her true identity, because he wouldn’t want to be with anyone magical, because that’s what he’s been running from his whole life.
If so, that could clash with the Peter Pan and Tinkerbell theories for them both…unless she was able to cast a spell on him so he didn’t recognise her…and if she was sent by Blue to find him, surely she has some reserves of fairy dust hidden away, the way Regina had her magical trinkets…which could make a forgetting spell possible. Ooo, maybe that’s why she bumps into him and spills her drink on him, because she had to get fairy dust on him somehow?
Anyway, basically, what I’m getting at, is if she’s revealed to be someone magical, and Neal didn’t previously know, I’m guessing the engagement won’t last much longer.
I like this theory. But why would Blue send her to him? To look after Baelfire, because Blue does seem to care for him.
@Phee wrote:
I’ll be surprised if Cora lives beyond the season finale.
Is Cora a series regular? Because if she isn’t then she will most likely be killed. What I’m wondering though, is what will happen after she is killed. Obviously they’re not all going back to FTL, so is there going to be a new big bad villian that they have to fight. I wonder which way they will go with this.
See, I don’t think that there will be a love triangle between Hook, Neal and Emma, because this situation is a lot different to Katherine, David and Mary. Katherine and David were married due to a curse, and therefore they were pretty much obligated to stay with each other even though David had feelings for someone else – if he wasn’t married then he would go straight to Mary.
Neal and his fiance chose to be together – there was no curse that forced them together and to get married. Neal willingly proposed to this woman, he wasn’t forced by magic. Therefore Neal obviously loves this woman. But in saying that, he may leave his fiance for Emma, but the way this is going I don’t think he would. I think he would just be fighting to be in Henrys’ life.
