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I’m going to be so sad if SB really is gone forever though 🙁
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KebParticipantAw, thanks. It’s been my escape from grad school, to be honest. So….only a couple of months of work in it, that’s all.
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KebParticipantYeah, the dress is my biggest hangup about this order of events, actually. But Rumple’s a dang fashionista and he totally could provide her another dress at any point–which might or might not require washing at some point. I bet he likes her in the gold dress anyway.
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KebParticipantI hate podcasts cuz I have a hearing loss and so they’re harder for me than written data (captioning is the best thing ever), but here’s what Adam and Eddy say that I think supports having the curtain before Robin Hood:
“For us, when we did Skin Deep last year, you know, you only have a certain amount of time in an episode, and for us, the real inspiration for this episode was, what were the first moments that Belle really started to look at him? You know. Of course when she fell off the drapes and they looked at each other, but for us, this was the moment where she realized he was more than a beast. And that was what this little slice was.” This is about 11:38 in the podcast for 219.
It doesn’t directly say which happened first, but…it just feels like the curtains happened first here to me.
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KebParticipantShe opens the windows because “it’s almost spring.” It’s still really cold when they go Robin hunting–they’re both quite wrapped up in their cloaks, and sharing a blanket in the carriage. It’s not always snowy in winter, but yeah, the establishing shots are troublesome. If she’s been crying over missing her family every night, though, Rumple can’t have put up with it for very long. (And a week of thaw is enough time for a snowscape to go green in the winter, given that you have many evergreens around.) It’s certainly spring by the time Regina encounters Belle on the road–she’s wearing her cloak open and the mud on the ground isn’t frozen.
And it’s okay not to let it go, RG, really. I’m trying to get it as right as possible. It’s never going to be perfect–either because they mess up in places or because they don’t release enough data to get it that way. Every bit of evidence helps.
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KebParticipanthttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9NzNOek42VEZweVU/edit?usp=sharing
Updated to include events of 220: The Evil Queen.
As for the intense debate re the Curtain Incident, I have chosen to place things thusly for the time being:
1. Belle comes to the Dark Castle, gets locked in the dungeon.
2. Regina orders the slaughter of the villagers.
3. Regina summons Rumple to her castle, and they make their deal. It’s the same night. Headcanon that Rumple is both checking his own appearance and checking up on Belle in the dungeon. (He’s also in the same outfit as earlier that day, which helps the case for this sequence.)
4. Next morning, Regina checks out her local townspeople and gets rescued by Snow.
5. That afternoon she wakes up in the forest. Two more days must pass for her to heal.
6. Next day: Curtain scene. Belle’s been with Rumple two days–long enough to observe some stuff. He’s in a gold vest. And she’s in the blue dress (dangit dangit dangit).
7. Next day: Regina’s healed. She and Snow run and come across the hill of bodies.
8. Late that night: Regina demands that Rumple remove his spell, and he makes the maid comment. (he’s in the red vest.)
9. Next night: Robin Hood robs the place. (He’s in the leather vest here, which is also what he’s wearing when he leaves while the aprons are drying.)
10. Rest of Lacey events.
11. Rest of Skin Deep events.Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
KebParticipantAnd I totally think he’s peeking at his new acquisition in the mirror while he’s talking to Regina. Matches up nicely with the Disney version.
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KebParticipantHe’s wearing the same outfit when he talks to Regina at the start of 220 as he is wearing when he brings Belle home. So I’m having the slaughter of the villagers and Belle’s arrival at the Dark Castle the same night. For reasons.
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KebParticipantHm. Maybe not. And his decision to leave then was kinda spur of the moment. I think I’ll leave things as they are. Still…this is going to haunt me!
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KebParticipantOh. OMG. Oh.
Rumple says “I’ll be back later” and leaves for a while mid-torture scene in 219. They’ve done this before with the back-to-backs that happen in similar timeframes…it’s probably easier to plan such things like that.
What if THAT is when he goes to Regina at the start of 220?
I don’t like it quite as much as my initial impression, but it would be like them to do this. I think I’m going to have to alter my timeline and put it there. That means that he’s been back from the Robin Hood thing a couple of days when Regina shows up again, though.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
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