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Same for Belle–any time she’s locked up or knocked out. Those two really lead sad lives these days, don’t they?
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KebParticipantBut they also know that the stories from the Land Without Magic aren’t quite right. Since they know that about their own stories, they probably aren’t rushing to judge everyone else based on those stories…any more than any human does.
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KebParticipantYou copy your favorite characters’ Storybrooke Style for your everyday wardrobe. (Though I have about six blue jumpers so I can look like Belle anyway…Storybrooke Fashion has simply increased the options!)
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KebParticipantIt’s a fascinating theory, but I’m not sure how well it’ll hold up. I don’t think Blue could have known for sure that Rumple wouldn’t go with Bae; as she said to him, “You had the way. You didn’t take it.” He made a deliberate, if panicked, choice in that moment, and it was his choice to make.
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KebParticipantYou know, at first I found the reveal a bit disappointing, even with the knowledge that it could never be quite as awesome as the mystery.
But the more I think about it…the power of a name, even in a universe where almost everyone has more than one name at this point, gets reinforced by that being the thing that convinced Neal to listen to Pinocchio. (It was also the first thing that Rumple wanted to know when he got back–what’s his name? Rumple may have had an idea of their power before he became all magical himself.)
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KebParticipantEmma: Gold! Are you insane?
Gold: Yes I am.
David: You can’t do that!
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KebParticipantWell, Belle knew that Rumple had once had a son, but before the curse she didn’t know more than that he had lost him. However, she was in Regina’s custody for some time. Though his reluctance to speak about Bae (and he didn’t even say the name until the library in Storybrooke, even to Belle) suggests that by the time the curse came along, he was pretty good at keeping information close to his chest. So it makes sense that aside from those who knew him in the early days of the Dark One (ie, Blue & Hook), people from FTL wouldn’t know.
OTH, Smee knew a lot back then. It probably took a while for Rumple’s web of deals to get so complicated that only he could follow it well enough to know what his ultimate goal was.
Cora knows about Bae now, but she may have gotten that information from Hook, and both of them may have figured out what’s going on from Smee + previous knowledge + Rumple’s behavior when they got to Storybrooke (the spyglass etc).
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KebParticipantThere were suggestions that Bae’s been on the radar longer than one would suspect–Rumple saying that his son had been running for a long time, when to that point we’ve been led to think their last contact was the moment the moment that Rumple let go of Bae’s hand, so how would he know? And Bae’s statement “for more years than you could know” suggests the possibility that there is more time than just the time it took for him to go from 14 to whatever he is now.
Rumple may have, in the interceding centuries, had some kind of contact with Bae, tracking him down to this particular world and Bae realizing that his father was coming after him. That’s stuff that we may see more about in future episodes.
Blue’s definitely got promise as a link between August and Bae, but we’ve had NO indication that she kept her memories during the curse. She didn’t have a failsafe like Rumple did with Emma’s name, and while she reacted with her normal calm when it was broken, she’s also been around for quite a while. It’s not a bad guess, but we don’t know enough to be sure about her at this point.
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KebParticipantThat, I think, is the biggest question this episode introduced. August clearly knew a LOT more than just that he had to protect Emma so she could break the curse. We do know that he knew about Bae, because he impersonated him in order to get the dagger. His knowledge about THAT he attributed to a fairy when Rumple asked.
I suspect that his interaction with Rumple explains at least part of his current disappearance from Storybrooke. Either Rumple has him locked up somewhere, or he’s hiding from Rumple. It could also be that he’s ashamed and doesn’t want BF, Geppetto, and Jiminy finding out what became of him. Or he doesn’t want the Charmings to know how he got there. There’s a lot of reasons for him to be in hiding atm, I guess…but Rumple said “If you’re going to die either way, I might as well get something out of it,” when he let him go…suggesting that he would have been willing to kill Pinocchio once the curse was broken. That plan might have changed with Belle’s involvement, of course…
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KebParticipantEh, he doesn’t exactly hate the Charmings, either. And now he’s family, which may well alter his perspective considerably when you look at how he feels about family. They have, as he’s said, a long history together, where he has helped/hurt/used Snow and Charming (and more recently Emma) all over the place, yet they both come to him in times of need, worked with him now and then, and helped imprison him just before the curse. I doubt Snow realizes just how involved he was in corrupting Regina, though, which is perhaps the worst thing he did to her…and obviously trading Charming to King George wasn’t exactly in Charming’s best interests, either, but if it weren’t for those circumstances, the two would never have met. Yeah, it’s one tangled mess of a relationship.
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