[Keb]

–TLK doesn’t work on Rumbelle because Belle doesn’t accept Rumple as he is?! Malarkey

Yeah, I think it’s because Rumple’s not willing to sacrifice his power for her yet, but it was…a frustrating moment.

Also I’m still stuck on how in 5A they told us TLK didn’t work because Rumple wanted the DO Curse enough that it stopped being a curse. I’m still trying to puzzle out how he couldn’t wake her if the issue is breaking a curse he wants so it’s not a curse anymore… round and round in my head.

So I’m going with for TLK to work you have to be in a sacrifice-anything-for-the-other kind of moment. He’s not willing to sacrifice his power, so it won’t work for him.

[Keb]

Okay, so I did a running thing while I was watching, so it’s more…reactions.

Overall, though, I think this was not my favorite episode. Some stuff didn’t make a lot of sense (the box was needed why?) and yeah, my favorites weren’t getting quite enough spotlight.

–Well…ten minutes in and that was a quick turn of events…wow.
–Yay for Emma getting to Rumple as fast as she did for once. She actually feels like Emma right now.
–So, does TLK not work because Rumple’s not ready to let go of the power, or because Belle can’t trust him anymore?
–Also, they’ve had so many almosts, that when the Real TLK really does come for them (and I’m confident it will), it’s going to have to be truly brilliant…and somehow they’re going to have to redeem Rumple completely in the bargain for all the S4 nonsense…
–So confused about the why pandora’s box is even relevant. All Rumple has to do is get Belle to the portal. He has magic. Not hard.
–Well, YEAH Robin is not okay with your putting his baby, who he’s been protecting all this time, into the arms of his rapist just because YOU trust her now. (Also the irony of Hook not trusting people to change that quickly echoes here…)
–NO RUMPLE NO. YOU PUT THAT HEART BACK RIGHT NOW.
–OMG Henry helping Stealthy is the happiest thing ever.
–Wait just how is Cruella supposed to have a claim on the Underworld? She’s not a god. She’s not even very magical.
–Okay, I’m loving that the Blind Witch is helping her though. New broship.
–Emma is True Love Incarnate. She shouldn’t need a final test to prove she loves Killian…though it does seem fair that it was a) sacrificial and b) filled with love in that moment. (Rumbeller in me hoping it’s a bit of foreshadowing?)
–Oh wait, I’m angry at Rumple; WHY is he torturing Robin again? Also what about not leaving children fatherless? Robin’s got as many as any of them.
–I knew the lady was toast as soon as I saw that jacket…but still ouch.
–I’d be a lot more moved by Hook’s being left behind if I believed it could stick…I just don’t anymore.
–Also, wait, Rumple escaped the Underworld, too. Special case perhaps, but…there were THREE souls at least who did.
–Yay armour!
–Wait, what? Rumple you…wow. I’m glad you didn’t actually hurt Robin but Lost Soulsing your father, that’s harsh. Really harsh.
–Okay, so you can put a Belle in a Box.
–Rumple, why you no check your grandson is okay? (I’m going with the headcanon that he assumed everyone else was already through, but I dunno.)
–Hades, darling, you covered all the heroes but didn’t think to distract Rumple further?
–Still convinced we’ve not seen the last of Hook (and not because of spoilers but because of the way this show seems to go). Which is actually tragic cuz that sense takes away from his farewell’s power, and Emma’s choice to protect the rest of her family instead.

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[Keb]

I agree, and I’m still hoping for Rumple to TRY to redeem himself a little here. But we’ll see. It is nice to see him fighting for his kid(s) again though.

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[Keb]

One problem: Pan’s deal with Rumple means someone can’t come back. I think Rumple means for that to be Zelena. She’s in serious trouble. And while it’s adorable that Hades was willing to rip it up without question, he never really wanted Rumple’s baby–he just wanted the leverage over Rumple so he could make him do things. He doesn’t currently need that with Rumple, so it’s a low price to get Zelena back…

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[Keb]

ZOMG. The 8th dwarf? Please yes!

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[Keb]

Really isn’t me! I guess all us Belles are Rebeccas or something :p I did notice during one of my graduations that there was a much higher concentration of Rebeccas in my particular major than most of the others at that ceremony…

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[Keb]

I really enjoyed this episode (and was happy to see a glimpse of Rumbelle). It was beautiful and had some glorious moments.

Cora’s receiving absolution worked…but I agree that it seems like the system is not very fair at all. If Cora deserved to move on, then Milah did too. And now David, Belle, and Rumple have all shoved someone in that river of lost souls…I’m hoping for all three of them (as well as their victims) that there’s still a chance to save the lost souls.

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[Keb]

I suspect it is. It’s also a shout-out to the 1985 Disney film, Return to Oz, which was somewhere between a sequel to the 1939 MGM film and a dark, scary combination of the next two books (The Marvelous Land of Oz and Ozma of Oz).

That film starts with Dorothy being taken to a hospital to have primitive late Victorian/Edwardian shock therapy for her Oz delusions. She meets another girl there who winds up being Princess Ozma in Oz. This was not from the books, where Oz was always treated as 100% real; the movie made that slightly ambiguous, though less “it was all a dream” than Judy Garland’s film.

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[Keb]

Well, at the moment I’m pretty sure that we’re supposed to believe there’s no way to save the souls in the lost souls river.

I’m still holding out hope though, because it’s pretty dark to leave Auntie Em, a repentant Milah, and Gaston’s accidentally doomed self there eternally.

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[Keb]

To hang out with their dead family members, duh.

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