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@Gypsy wrote:
Neal Cassady could possibly Jack, but, I still think he’s Bae/PP/Henry’s dad.
I don’t think Gold/Rumple could have found out about Neal Cassay during the 28 yr curse or had contact with him, considering that Rumple didn’t get his memory back until Emma said her name at Granny’s B&B (confirmed by K&H).
It is fun guessing, though 🙂
Well, a minor twist to my idea is that Rumple had “persuaded” little Jack to climb the beanstalk before the curse to steal more beans, and then my original idea takes place. That would have given Gold a year to find him last season when his memory returned. I just can’t see this guy as Bae or PP. I think Rumple was planning on driving to NY or another meeting place to get a bean from Neal so he could take it back and enchant it into a portal. That’s why he was so mad to find out he couldn’t leave. I mean, if he was just leaving town to reunite with Bae, why bring magic to Storybrooke?
The real poetry in this show is that everytime Rumple thinks he is close to finding Bae, he finds another obstacle. I think we’ll find out that he thought the curse would take him to the land Bae went to but he was wrong.
[adrotate group="5"]kevin bergParticipantI don’t want to burst anyone’s bubble about Neal being Bae and/or Peter Pan, but I’m pretty sure recent OUAT naming “logic” points to him being Jack from Jack & The Beanstalk,. Follow me on this for a minute or two…
Dr. Whale gets his name from James Whale who directed the 1931 Frankenstein movie.
(The real) Neal Cassady was the inspiration behind the character Dean Moriarty in “On The Road” by Jack Kerouac, yes, but also other characters in several other works by Jack Kerouac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Cassady#Literary_appearances), so the Neal Cassady in OUAT could very well be Jack.Why Jack makes sense
Well, there’s the obvious tie in to this episode’s Fairytale storyline, along with the fact that the writers said we’d learn the identity of the Mystery Man fairly early on this season. See, we know Bae went to a land without magic, but we shouldn’t assume it was our world. My guess is that Jack stole some more magic beans from the giant, accidentally opened a portal with one and fell into our world. Assuming he was 8-9 years old and did that just before the curse (the BF might not have wanted to mess with giants to get more beans for Rumple when Bae got lost or she didn’t trust Rumple to be in yet another land?), he’d be almost 40 now which looks about right.At some point in the 28-year curse, Gold/Rumple somehow found out about Jack/Neal (maybe Henry’s book…I don’t have that part worked out) and got in touch with him; we know communication outside Storybrooke was possible because Catherine got accepted into a college outside of Storybrooke and Gold had arranged Henry’s adoption even though the agency was outside.. He found out that Neal had a magic bean or two that were stuffed into his pocket when he fell through the portal. But, no magic here made the beans useless until Rumple brought magic to Storybrooke. He probably made a deal with Jack because Jack wants to go home and Rumple wants to find Bae (maybe with beans ad the Magical Compass).
The idea that Neal is Henry’s father could play right into this because Rumple does orchestrate elaborate ruses to get what he wants done.
So, there you have my prediction. Will it be right? I don’t know, but I think it makes the most sense. Plus, now that I think about it, the shot of Neal’s phone falling looked like a long way up and his look could be seen as “Not again!”
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